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caitlin ruadh wrote:
kenny wrote:Who played flute with the "Old Blind Dogs"?
I looked in the liner notes of the one album I have at home ( Legacy ) but it doesn't seem to have a band list anywhere.
This is the kind of question wikipedia was made to answer. Only whistles are credited - could what you're hearing be a low whistle?
1990–92
Ian F. Benzie (guitar, vocals)
Jonny Hardie (fiddle, mandolin, guitar, backing vocals)
Buzzby McMillan (cittern, bass)
Carmen Higgins (fiddle)
Dave Francis (percussion)
Davy Cattanach (percussion) [joined 1991]

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Ian F. Benzie
Jonny Hardie
Buzzby McMillan
Davy Cattanach

1996–97
Ian F. Benzie
Jonny Hardie
Buzzby McMillan
Fraser Fifield (small pipes, saxophone)
Davy Cattanach

1997–99
Ian F. Benzie
Fraser Fifield
Graham Youngson (percussion)
Jonny Hardie
Buzzby McMillan

1999–2003
Jim Malcolm (guitar, harmonica, lead vocals)
Jonny Hardie (fiddle, guitar, backing vocals)
Buzzby McMillan
Rory Campbell (whistle, border pipes, guitar, harmonica, backing vocals)
Paul Jennings (percussion) [left 2002]

2003–2006
Jim Malcolm
Jonny Hardie
Rory Campbell
Fraser Stone (drums, percussion)
Aaron Jones (bouzouki, bass, backing vocals)

2007-2008
Jonny Hardie (fiddle, guitar, vocals)
Rory Campbell (border pipes, whistles, vocals)
Fraser Stone (percussion)
Aaron Jones (bouzouki, guitar, vocals)

2008-
Jonny Hardie (fiddle, guitar, vocals)
Ali Hutton (border pipes, whistles)
Fraser Stone (percussion)
Aaron Jones (bouzouki, guitar, vocals)
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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^^^I dunno; it sure sounds like a flute to me! Besides, one of my friends lived in Scotland and Ireland for a year and said she took lessons from the flute player for Old Blind Dogs. Though, which one she didn't specify.

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Already on page two and nobody's mentioned Phil Smillie, Tannahilll Weavers.
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Oh, my bad!!! I did a show of Scottish Music the other night in honour of this thread and I almost forgot to play them, too! :tomato:

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I love Scottish music. In fact, a few of my favorite tunes are Scottish.
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Wormdiet wrote:Already on page two and nobody's mentioned Phil Smillie, Tannahilll Weavers.
Hear hear. He was actually one of the first two or three wooden flute players I ever saw, heard, had on record, back in 1977.

I can't remember if it is one of the tracks on his MySpace site, But Calum Stewart (a member of this board, BTW) plays Tullochgorum stunningly on his Earlywood album. Most of that album is trad material, only a portion of it self-composed.
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As far as Cape Breton goes, there don't seem to be many flute players around here on the island, and I've been asking around. The only one I know of is Stewart MacNeil from the Barra MacNeils, and a couple of others that fool around a bit. Although I did learn that Tom Doorley from Danu lived here for a couple of years, in or near Englishtown, but that's on the Irish side of things. There are a few whistle players, but really not many considering, and I think the music lends itself well to both flute and whistle. I have an old keyless flute on loan, and I was trying to get started (I'm mostly a whistle player) when something reacted with my lungs and I started having some respiratory problems...not sure if it was the flute, but I've put it down until I'm back to normal.
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Caitlin - is it early OBD you are talking about?, if it is then the instrument you are talking about may be a recorder - my favourite live set by the Dogs was Johnny hardie on recorder and Davy Cattanach on djembe playing the Managhan jig.

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BigDavy wrote:Caitlin - is it early OBD you are talking about?, if it is then the instrument you are talking about may be a recorder - my favourite live set by the Dogs was Johnny hardie on recorder and Davy Cattanach on djembe playing the Managhan jig.

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The album I own is an early one, yes. But their latest CD, Four on the Floor (Live) has some lovely...something in it as well that sounds very much like a flute. That's what I was primarily thinking of.

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Adrian W. wrote:As far as Cape Breton goes, there don't seem to be many flute players around here on the island, and I've been asking around.
Johnny Wilmot's Another Side of Cape Breton compiles several 78s and an LP made in the 50s and 60s for a tiny Cape Breton Label. As the blurb below says, several tracks featured whistle. These are the only Cape Breton 'wind' recordings I know of from the pre-revival era.

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Another great compilation from Breton Books and music, Another Side of Cape Breton presesents Johnny's early recordings (1951-64). In addition to fiddle and piano selections (with Margaret MacPhee or Mildred Leadbeater) there are tracks with tin whistle (Chris Langan on a C Clarke whistle) and others with harmonica (Tommy Basker).
Click the pic for MP3s of all tracks; they could be exerpts, but I think the publisher has posted the whole thing on their website because it's O/P.

The second and third tracks below include whitle. The harmonica track is just really good, so I couldn't resist posting, it, too.
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...During this period he made three trips to Boston where he played with, and for, some of the legendary figures of Irish music, including Paddy Cronin and Joe Derrane. Paddy was heard to say that Johnny was the liveliest Irish jig player he had ever encountered.

Musically, Johnny was fluently bilingual. He was one of the few musicians I ever met who had thoroughly digested both Cape Breton Irish and Cape Breton Scottish styles. While his own compositions often straddled this Irish-Scottish fence, his settings of traditional tunes kept the two separate, always displaying personal style without sacrificing the beauty and integrity of the 'original' melodies.

Johnny was exposed to live Irish and Scottish styles of music from the time he was an infant. Starting in the late 'twenties he began listening to the Irish 78s of Coleman, Morrison etc. and and later to the Cape Breton 78s of the Inverness Serenaders. He played most of the 'mainstream repertoire' including the majority of tunes recorded and played by other Cape Breton fiddlers between 1930-65. Many of these tunes were found in easily available books such as Cole's One Thousand Fiddle Tunes, J. Scott Skinner's, The Scottish Violinist, The Scotch Guard and The Skye, O'Neill's and Kerr's Collections.
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s1m0n wrote:
Adrian W. wrote:As far as Cape Breton goes, there don't seem to be many flute players around here on the island, and I've been asking around.
"Johnny Wilmot's Another Side of Cape Breton compiles several 78s and an LP made in the 50s and 60s for a tiny Cape Breton Label. As the blurb below says, several tracks featured whistle. These are the only Cape Breton 'wind' recordings I know of from the pre-revival era."

Thanks; yeah, I can't add any more older sources for wind, but the Northside is where I would look for Irish music/flute/whistle even today. Tommy Basker is still well remembered; I like a little jig he wrote called 'Noreen Locke", hoping my daughter and i can play it one day, still a little tough for her.

When I said there is more whistle in Cape Breton than sometimes people credit, I was thinking of today....the local music store seems to sell a good number of whistles (mostly the Gens and other inexpensive whistles, but they have some more expensive ones turning over too), and there are a handful of good players around (plus me!). Not a lot, but I read a thread at theSession that implied there was none, and that's not true.

I'd love to see a really good wooden flute player tackle CB music here. I think Cathal McConnell has recorded a bit of it (the Wedding Reels on a Boys of the Lough album). There's room here for more Irish music too; a friend has a little pub band going doing Irish music, and they are run off their feet.
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Not a strathspey, but scottish (I think) and played by a scot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbW7-lqlC0w
I think there is some more flute from Iain MacDonald in the Highland Sessions clips on youtube but can't find it right now. It should hardly be a chore going through the clips looking for it though.
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hans wrote:
fifenwhistle wrote:I think one good example, might be better ones out there, which could be extrapolated to the flute somewhat, is Natalie McMasters take on Tolluchgorum w/ variations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-d9A0jRBYY
Tullochgorum: you mean this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdc-oL6VjIc
Great playing!

There is also a great flute rendering of this tune by Chris Norman on the CD "The Caledonian Flute" (not available to listen on the web though).

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caitlin ruadh wrote:
BigDavy wrote:Caitlin - is it early OBD you are talking about?, if it is then the instrument you are talking about may be a recorder - my favourite live set by the Dogs was Johnny hardie on recorder and Davy Cattanach on djembe playing the Managhan jig.

David
The album I own is an early one, yes. But their latest CD, Four on the Floor (Live) has some lovely...something in it as well that sounds very much like a flute. That's what I was primarily thinking of.

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That was a low whistle, but the idea is similar.
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jemtheflute wrote:I can't remember if it is one of the tracks on his MySpace site, But Calum Stewart (a member of this board, BTW) plays Tullochgorum stunningly on his Earlywood album. Most of that album is trad material, only a portion of it self-composed.
Part of it is there. Based on this thread I tried to order his latest CD from his site but my PayPal went un-retrieved by him and subsequent emails got bounced back. Does anyone have updated info on Calum?

I was able to get his Earlywood album from a Scottish music site but I'd also like to get his newer one.
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