B flute....anyone got one?

[boyd]

Just a casual enquiry....

I've started playing with a couple of guys in B.
The banjo/mandolin guy tunes down, the uilleann pipes are in B and then there's a whistle in B

2 of us are flute players, so started to wonder if anyone out there has ever had a B flute?

(we have a Bflat Aebi flute....so the stretch won't be an issue)

Rogge used to make B flutes but stopped (I guess there wasnt much demand for them)

So who in the world would make one (or sell it second hand)?

Boyd


ps the Bodhran is pitched in B too

[jemtheflute]

I have a quite nice anonymous bamboo flute I got 2nd hand off eBay a while back - sold as being Bb but turned out to be spot on concert pitch B. I've no idea of its provenance but it isn't a bansuri. It's well tuned but being cylindrical, quite a stretch - not comfortable to play for very long. If you could find one like it....
Doesn't Doug offer low B?

[LorenzoFlute]

I have a bansuri in B (not for sale). Stretch would be an issue for most people (even with piper's grip). I can play it after some days of gettting used to it.
I belive many makers would make a B flute...?

[planxtydt]

Hammy makes a B flute.

[Herb]

So does Doug Tipple - very playable and a lot of fun. And talk about cost-effective...

Herb

[ImNotIrish]

I have a Tipple 'B' I will sell. PM if interested. Same stretch issue as Jem mentioned.
Arbo

[O_Gaiteiro_do_Chicago]

When I made my recent visit to John Gallagher he had a B (not Bb)flute it his shop. It was an 8 key in dogwood, was an absolute dream to play. If you search the forum for pictures of my dogwood Gallgher, that's more or less what it looks like. It had that nice bouncy sound, and a good honk on the lower end. The customer ordered it so they could play with a flat set of pipes.

[talasiga]

..... provenance .........

without looking up a dictionary I think this is a word meaning place of origin or, even, culture of origin. Bourgeoise wine fanatics use the word much.

I thought I would just point this out, jemtheflute not having defended my usage of nexus as an accessible word even though our current female Prime Minsiter (Labour and working class oriented) used the word in the National Leadership pre election debate televised all around Australia.

Speaking of Australia
TERRY MCGEE makes em I believe - B flutes that is.
http://www.mcgee-flutes.com/Low%20flute%20models.htm

[s1m0n]

..... provenance .........

without looking up a dictionary I think this is a word meaning place of origin or, even, culture of origin. Bourgeoise wine fanatics use the word much.

It comes from art, and means origin but specifically the history of or rather from origin, as in 'X painted this, and sold it to Y - see bill of sale & contemporary letters - and Y bequeathed it to Z - see probate docs - who sold it at Sotheby's to me.' It's used to prove that the item is A) genuine and B) not stolen.

[benhall.1]

..... provenance .........

without looking up a dictionary I think this is a word meaning place of origin or, even, culture of origin. Bourgeoise wine fanatics use the word much.

I thought I would just point this out, jemtheflute not having defended my usage of nexus as an accessible word even though our current female Prime Minsiter (Labour and working class oriented) used the word in the National Leadership pre election debate televised all around Australia.

Good grief. Tit for tat. A new level has been reached on the board.

[jemtheflute]

Whilst I am deeply flattered that talasiga should desire or feel the need for my defence.....

Without consulting a dictionary, "provenance" of course comes from a combination of the Latin & Greek prefix pro- meaning: for, before, etc. and -venance from the Latin verb venire, to come. Its basic import is "origin" as in place/time of manufacture of an item (or even of a concept or meme), but it also usually has the extended meaning of "how it got here now" - its history.

The word is commonly used as jargon amongst folk dealing with artefacts (not just "works of art") particularly antique ones - thus art historians (as S1m0n mentioned) but also antique dealers, archaeologists, museum staff et al. I can quite imagine a modern rag-trade buyer or clothes designer discussing (with equally legitimate usage) the provenance of a cloth or a made-up suit etc. or a wine-buff (even a middle-class male one!) talking about the source of a vintage..... I don't think it is pseud-y or obfuscatory to use a technical term where it saves longer explanation and in this case "origin" alone would not have conveyed the same/intended meaning. The usage is generally familiar in GB at any rate to millions beyond the trade pros due to the popularity of such TV shows as The Antiques Roadshow, Cash in the Attic, etc.

It was in the fuller sense of ultimate origin plus how it eventually got to me that I used the word - and I don't think my gender or class background or political sympathies have anything to do with my usage, though education (in a broad sense, not just formal) probably has. I plead guilty to (technically correct and contextually appropriate) use of jargon (sure, always!), but doubt there is a legitimate parallel to be drawn with talasiga's nexus.

Had JC led an expedition to Oz rather than Britain, he doubtless would not have been prompted to comment "weeny, weedy, weaky"!

[Doug_Tipple]

Had JC led an expedition to Oz rather than Britain, he doubtless would not have been prompted to comment "weedy, weaky, weany"!

Are you implying that we are weanies for taking time out of our busy days to read this? Or perhaps that I really should be working on my weedy garden instead? Jem, you need to get busy sanding that pile of piccolo lip plates.

[Denny]

I'll admit that I was wondering why I was reading this, however
I don't think that it was because I'm a weenie.

I am fairly sure that I am a Bozo

[benhall.1]

Will you two please stop using humour to lighten the tone? Spoilsports.

[Denny]

well, we're not supposed to say bitch slap are we?