playing in flat keys
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I also have a few tunes that I play in b flat[which is of course a#]., I find them useful as exercises but Ialso enjoy the different sound of the key of Bflat, and can enjoy them on two levels, as exercises and as tunes,
every key has its own particular mood.
The key of e flat is also the key of d#.
every key has its own particular mood.
The key of e flat is also the key of d#.
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don't tell me that ya want yer keys bound in broad daylight
I thought you were Brittish
hmmm, interesting problem,
I don't suppose ya'd want yer keys unbound either
I thought you were Brittish
hmmm, interesting problem,
I don't suppose ya'd want yer keys unbound either
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Presumably D is the one key that will help me find them as well? (It probably shrieks when you clap or something.)
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that was a whistle joke, wasn't it
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Kind of like Lord of the Fipples? Or Lord of the Tone Rings perhaps?
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Re: playing in flat keys
Dear moderators
I rest my case.
Yours in hope of maintaining a harmonious forum
Steve xxx
I rest my case.
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On concertina.. or? Which tunes might they be?koncertina wrote:I also have a few tunes that I play in b flat[which is of course a#]., I find them useful as exercises but Ialso enjoy the different sound of the key of Bflat, and can enjoy them on two levels, as exercises and as tunes,
every key has its own particular mood.
The key of e flat is also the key of d#.
As far as Bb being A#, thats food for a separate discussion, just to say that they are not the same on the fiddle!
Your point about exercise is very valid and the technical gains from this kind of practice are substantial, but for me its mainly for the pleasure of playing these different fingerings. On my C fiddle I really enjoy the sound of the lower tone, its all that much richer, mellower and warmer, play C fingering on a C fiddle and Im then playing in Bb.
I did tune down to B once, then Id be playing in A with C fingering. Funnily enough I mainly play in A and D on guitar. I Play a 7 string Classical Guitar with a Low A and dropped D, with the capo on the top 6 strings at the 7th fret, so I have 4 octaves of A in one position . Great fun for drones and pipe tunes.
Sorry i didn't reply earlier your post got lost amongst all the spam. lads give it a break eh? couldn't you continue your chat off board, its not particularly funny or relevant now is it?
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Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
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So would A be flat and G be sharp?
Oh, and would do you call Ab then?
Oh, and would do you call Ab then?
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... just to say that it's equally true - and valid - to say that they are the same on fiddle.fiddlerwill wrote:As far as Bb being A#, thats food for a separate discussion, just to say that they are not the same on the fiddle!
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Fair enough, we can agree that they are not necessarily the same on the fiddle ? I love the fact that there is no dividing line on the fiddle. I play cook in the kitchin on fiddle using F nat at a certain point instead of F# but on guitar, whistle and UP that just sounds weird to me so I use the F# throughout.
>>So would A be flat and G be sharp?
Oh, and would do you call Ab then?l <<
its all relative eh?
>>So would A be flat and G be sharp?
Oh, and would do you call Ab then?l <<
its all relative eh?
The mind is like a parachute; it only works when it is open.
Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
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Er ... yes, it's all relative. And, btw, I play Cook in the Kitchen on whistle (and on fiddle) with an Fnat at that point you're talking about. It sounds weird to me without it.
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My point was that I play it differently depending on the instrument. Presumably its to do with the temperament.
I suppose you just half hole the F till it sounds harmonious? . I tried it on banjo and both sounded ok, but with guitar I play with a strong drone so if the note is not very in tune with the drone then perhaps thats why it sounds weird. What about chief O'Neills on the 2nd part F# or Fnat?
I suppose you just half hole the F till it sounds harmonious? . I tried it on banjo and both sounded ok, but with guitar I play with a strong drone so if the note is not very in tune with the drone then perhaps thats why it sounds weird. What about chief O'Neills on the 2nd part F# or Fnat?
The mind is like a parachute; it only works when it is open.
Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
Heres a few tunes round a table, first three sets;
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/werty
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs-willie
http://soundcloud.com/fiddlerwill/jigs
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Fiddlerwill's music clips are gone from the web, but I might have saved them somewhere. In the interest of decorum, I will not say why I saved them.....I'll have a look-see when I'm at my main machine, if you're interested.
Fiddlerwill's music clips are gone from the web, but I might have saved them somewhere. In the interest of decorum, I will not say why I saved them.....I'll have a look-see when I'm at my main machine, if you're interested.
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Re: playing in flat keys
What do you mean? With your own definition, Eb can be a flat key as much as any other key. What octave are we talking about? Ever heard of a Eb low whistle? I heard these things are huge beastsfiddlerwill wrote:Eb is not a flat key is it?
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Maybe on fiddle, but on violin A# and Bb are two different notes.benhall.1 wrote:... just to say that it's equally true - and valid - to say that they are the same on fiddle.fiddlerwill wrote:As far as Bb being A#, thats food for a separate discussion, just to say that they are not the same on the fiddle!