How to wreck a Traditional song :(
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How to wreck a Traditional song :(
I was watching Transatlantic Sessions 4 and wanted to strangle Allison Moorer et alia for the wrecking job they did on Carrickfergus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNEgKGEDfOk
Then I came across Ishna performing Raglan Road, while trawling for uilleann piping vids - which caused the same desires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3CUpcZRLWo
It is amazing how good players and musicians can destroy a perfectly good song for you.
David
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNEgKGEDfOk
Then I came across Ishna performing Raglan Road, while trawling for uilleann piping vids - which caused the same desires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3CUpcZRLWo
It is amazing how good players and musicians can destroy a perfectly good song for you.
David
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
I'd agree with your opinion of Raglan Road, but I thought the Carrickfergus rendition was lovely. It may be a little slower than I'm used to, but I really liked it. The steel guitar gives a nice counterpoint to the pipes, too. Diff'rent strokes, I guess...BigDavy wrote:I was watching Transatlantic Sessions 4 and wanted to strangle Allison Moorer et alia for the wrecking job they did on Carrickfergus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNEgKGEDfOk
Then I came across Ishna performing Raglan Road, while trawling for uilleann piping vids - which caused the same desires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3CUpcZRLWo
It is amazing how good players and musicians can destroy a perfectly good song for you.
David
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
As Martin Carthy once observed, the worst thing you can do to a traditional song is not sing it.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
Mention of the Carthy dynasty reminds me of the worst travesty of a great song ever committed. Listen to Nic Jones' sublime singing of "Ten Thousand Miles" (if you can get hold of a copy of the album "Noah's Ark Trap," and, if you can't, write a very nasty letter to a certain Mr Dave Bulmer), then listen to Eliza Carthy's absolute murdering of the song. You really do need to hear both before judging the latter, to be fair to Ms Carthy, otherwise you won't know what you're missing.
"Last night, among his fellow roughs,
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
To be honest, I frequently find something missing from Ms Carthy's music. I regularly find myself impressed by her talent and underwhelmed by her taste, but she does have her fans, I suppose.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
so did the Monkeess1m0n wrote:but she does have her fans
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
it went on for ever! we were fast-forwarding it on i-player hoping they would do somthing a little more up-beat after it and then the credits rolledplunk111 wrote:
I'd agree with your opinion of Raglan Road, but I thought the Carrickfergus rendition was lovely. It may be a little slower than I'm used to, but I really liked it. The steel guitar gives a nice counterpoint to the pipes, too. Diff'rent strokes, I guess...
Pat
Then again - our house has a bit of a hate-hate relationship with that song.
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
I only ever want to hear Luke Kelly singing Raglan Road, just like I only ever want to hear Shane McGowan singing Pair of Brown Eyes (sorry, Christy) and like I only ever want to hear Jacqueline Du Pré playing the Elgar cello concerto. Purely subjective notions I know!
"Last night, among his fellow roughs,
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
Hi Steve
I liked Luke Kelly's version too, but for me the singer that I most enjoyed performing Raglan Road has to be Ronnie Drew.
David
I liked Luke Kelly's version too, but for me the singer that I most enjoyed performing Raglan Road has to be Ronnie Drew.
David
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
Good, but not Luke.
"Last night, among his fellow roughs,
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
Well Steve
How about a more contemporary Irish singer singing Raglan Road Maurice Dickson singing Raglan Road - to show a nice version as against the Ishna one.
David
How about a more contemporary Irish singer singing Raglan Road Maurice Dickson singing Raglan Road - to show a nice version as against the Ishna one.
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
I really like Sinead O'Connor's version of Raglan Road. It is beautifully sung, and she keeps it simple. I really like the version of the Chieftains album, Tears of Stone. I don't know who the singer is, but it is a beautiful rendition.
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Nah. Neither of those. Where's the grit, the soul, the scorned lover's anger and arrogance! The angel and the clay! The delusion!
"Last night, among his fellow roughs,
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
He jested, quaff'd and swore."
They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the life that'll never, never die.
I'll live in you if you'll live in me -
I am the lord of the dance, said he!
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
I know what you mean about Du Pre and the Elgar, Steve. But I would just put a mention in for Casals' version - very different, but also beautiful.
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Re: How to wreck a Traditional song :(
Got to hear that in person last nightSteveShaw wrote:...just like I only ever want to hear Shane McGowan singing Pair of Brown Eyes ...