What slow airs should we know?
What slow airs should we know?
Don't say "Danny Boy" now!
No honestly, what kind of slow airs would you say any whistler can't do without knowing?
No honestly, what kind of slow airs would you say any whistler can't do without knowing?
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
None. There is no "should" regards to slow airs.
Just learn airs you really like.
And learn to play them well.
Most likely you play them solo anyway,
or with folks who showed them to you,
or with whom you play regularly
and who enjoy playing airs.
But of course there are some more commonly known airs,
like some from O'Carolan, which you might enjoy learning.
Most known of O'Carolan's airs are perhaps
Si Bheag Si Mhor, Planxty Fanny Power, Planxty Irwin,
O'Carolan's Welcome, Eleanor Plunkett, Hewlett.
Then some folks don't regard O'Carolan's compositions as true Irish,
as they show some continental baroque influence.
Some others (not O'Carolan's):
The Wild Geese, Ned of the Hill, Give Me Your Hand.
I mostly play Scottish airs, especially from the Highlands and western islands.
But then i live in Scotland, and Scottish airs are more common here!
And i guess you were not asking for Scottish airs, but Irish .
~Hans
Just learn airs you really like.
And learn to play them well.
Most likely you play them solo anyway,
or with folks who showed them to you,
or with whom you play regularly
and who enjoy playing airs.
But of course there are some more commonly known airs,
like some from O'Carolan, which you might enjoy learning.
Most known of O'Carolan's airs are perhaps
Si Bheag Si Mhor, Planxty Fanny Power, Planxty Irwin,
O'Carolan's Welcome, Eleanor Plunkett, Hewlett.
Then some folks don't regard O'Carolan's compositions as true Irish,
as they show some continental baroque influence.
Some others (not O'Carolan's):
The Wild Geese, Ned of the Hill, Give Me Your Hand.
I mostly play Scottish airs, especially from the Highlands and western islands.
But then i live in Scotland, and Scottish airs are more common here!
And i guess you were not asking for Scottish airs, but Irish .
~Hans
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
I don't think it's possible to answer this exact question. Unlike session tunes, which are a shared repertoire you need to know to play together, slow airs are solo pieces and are a personal choice. But I'm sure people will chime in with their favorite airs, without the idea of "should" attached.
The only airs I recall being asked to play by punters at sessions more than once are "Danny Boy / (London)derry Air" and "The Lonesome Boatman". And technically, I guess the latter is really a "tune in the style of a slow air", since I don't think there is an underlying song.
Added: I see that Hans and I crossed posts.
The only airs I recall being asked to play by punters at sessions more than once are "Danny Boy / (London)derry Air" and "The Lonesome Boatman". And technically, I guess the latter is really a "tune in the style of a slow air", since I don't think there is an underlying song.
Added: I see that Hans and I crossed posts.
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
In my opinion the compositions of Carolan are not "airs", except by the very broad definition of "air" as meaning any sort of tune.
To me, "airs" are the song-airs, usually in the Irish language originally, the "sean nos" songs.
I suppose that Irish non-dance music could be broken down into categories
1) sean nos airs
2) tin-pan-alley quasi-Irish songs (Irish Eyes are Smiling etc etc)
3) compositions of Carolan and other old harpers (Give me your Hand etc etc)
4) pub songs/ folk music revival songs from the 1960's etc (Fields of Athenry etc etc)
5) old songs in English such as broadside ballads, shanties, etc etc
well I don't know if these categories would hold up to scrutiny...
Anyhow I've often found myself playing for fairly long periods as background music at weddings etc and I tend to rotate through these various genres in order to hit the various tastes of the audience.
I'll play a New York quasi-Irish song, which is what most Americans think Irish music is.
Then I'll follow with a sean nos air. The old Irish-raised people recognise those.
Then a folk music revival pub song which will be recognised by middle-aged Irish people and some Americans as well.
To me that's the test of what airs we should know, at least if we're being paid to play.
The airs that people seem to recognise and like are Carrickfergus, Rosin Dubh, and Laggan Love. Actually I learned Rosin Dubh because a few times when I was out playing it was requested by elderly Irish people.
The modern song that all Irish people seem to recognise and like is Fields of Athenry.
To me, "airs" are the song-airs, usually in the Irish language originally, the "sean nos" songs.
I suppose that Irish non-dance music could be broken down into categories
1) sean nos airs
2) tin-pan-alley quasi-Irish songs (Irish Eyes are Smiling etc etc)
3) compositions of Carolan and other old harpers (Give me your Hand etc etc)
4) pub songs/ folk music revival songs from the 1960's etc (Fields of Athenry etc etc)
5) old songs in English such as broadside ballads, shanties, etc etc
well I don't know if these categories would hold up to scrutiny...
Anyhow I've often found myself playing for fairly long periods as background music at weddings etc and I tend to rotate through these various genres in order to hit the various tastes of the audience.
I'll play a New York quasi-Irish song, which is what most Americans think Irish music is.
Then I'll follow with a sean nos air. The old Irish-raised people recognise those.
Then a folk music revival pub song which will be recognised by middle-aged Irish people and some Americans as well.
To me that's the test of what airs we should know, at least if we're being paid to play.
The airs that people seem to recognise and like are Carrickfergus, Rosin Dubh, and Laggan Love. Actually I learned Rosin Dubh because a few times when I was out playing it was requested by elderly Irish people.
The modern song that all Irish people seem to recognise and like is Fields of Athenry.
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
hans wrote:None. There is no "should" regards to slow airs.
Just learn airs you really like.
And learn to play them well.
Most likely you play them solo anyway,
or with folks who showed them to you,
or with whom you play regularly
and who enjoy playing airs.
[...]
I mostly play Scottish airs, especially from the Highlands and western islands.
But then i live in Scotland, and Scottish airs are more common here!
And i guess you were not asking for Scottish airs, but Irish .
~Hans
You're right, Hans, there really is no "should". The real question should ( ) have been which are your personal favorite slow airs? I mean, the ones you often return to play, the ones you love to play.
Personally, I'm indifferent to whether they are Irish or Scottish - just do me a favor and mark them for which sort they are.
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
Here are a few airs which I think are lovely on whistle or flute:
The Parting of Friends
Bruach na Carraige Baine
Easter Snow
Dochas
Fath mo Bhuartha
Sliabh Geal gCua
Ta me 'mo Chodladh
--James
The Parting of Friends
Bruach na Carraige Baine
Easter Snow
Dochas
Fath mo Bhuartha
Sliabh Geal gCua
Ta me 'mo Chodladh
--James
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
The accepted definition of "air" to traditional irish musicans is (generally, and simplistically) the melody of a song, or a tune played in that style. A "slow air" is generally accepted to be the definition of the tune of a sean nos or traditional (english language) song.pancelticpiper wrote: To me, "airs" are the song-airs, usually in the Irish language originally, the "sean nos" songs.
I suppose that Irish non-dance music could be broken down into categories
1) sean nos airs
2) tin-pan-alley quasi-Irish songs (Irish Eyes are Smiling etc etc)
3) compositions of Carolan and other old harpers (Give me your Hand etc etc)
4) pub songs/ folk music revival songs from the 1960's etc (Fields of Athenry etc etc)
5) old songs in English such as broadside ballads, shanties, etc etc
Your list doesn't seem to take into account that the accepted definition of "sean nos" includes "irish language only". English language songs in a similar style wouldn't be considered sean nos.
Fields of Athenry is on par with Danny Boy!
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
Any slow tune in the categories above that makes you go "God, I love that melody!" is a candidate. There are even a few tunes in the category of "celtic new age crap" that regardless sound wonderful on a whistle :-p
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
"I love that melody!" Absolutely.
To James' list I'd add
Bells of Shandon (better on harp than whistle) and
Sliabh na mBan.
To James' list I'd add
Bells of Shandon (better on harp than whistle) and
Sliabh na mBan.
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
Londonderry Air. I love jazz versions of it. I'm kind of kidding.
"Wake up your bones,
Tune up your drones,
Let flee that heavenly tone."
Tune up your drones,
Let flee that heavenly tone."
Re: What slow airs should we know?
I hope I didn't just make a derry air of myself.
"Wake up your bones,
Tune up your drones,
Let flee that heavenly tone."
Tune up your drones,
Let flee that heavenly tone."
Re: What slow airs should we know?
Nice way of not saying "Danny Boy", anyway.
Anybody else who'd like to tell me their favorite airs? - I'm off to google the ones you've mentioned above.
Anybody else who'd like to tell me their favorite airs? - I'm off to google the ones you've mentioned above.
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
Yes, we need MORE!!
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Re: What slow airs should we know?
Well for as long as I have been trying to play O'Connall's Lamentation, I would think that I should know it and play it right. Never have.
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