Too much breath!

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Re: Too much breath!

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I had/still-too-frequently have -- those episodes. I'm fortunate my main gig whistle is very hard to overdrive, so until I "cool my jets" so to speak, it'll take the abuse (tho' it sounds cruddy), but basically, I do the same as Henke -- think about it and remember to exhale. And like so much else, I try to think of switching back and forth as something that needs to be practiced, too!

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Cathy Wilde wrote:Congrats on your long notes. That's a major achievement! :party:
Thanks. Trouble is, as soon as I try to play a tune, the tone just sort of ... fades in and out. I can play a tune slowly, mind, but put any speed into it at all, and I get the fading-in-and-out thing. Grrr!
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benhall.1 wrote:"Nose-leak"
Now there's an expression that doesn't sound good at all. :o :lol:

I prefer the "Mouth leak". Same principle, and accidental spittle seems preferable to ... well, you know.
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MTGuru wrote:I prefer the "Mouth leak".
much easier to do on a whistle :D
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benhall.1 wrote: Yehbut ... when it comes to doing things with your nose, you do have a head start, Jem ... :D
Snort! Or, in my present state, sniff! Be careful, or I'll tell 'em about the gooseberry!

MTGuru, we're only talking gentle pressure release exhalation, here, not vigorous snorking!
No danger of snot-spray, even if doing waterfall impressions like I am at the moment (blasted viruses!).
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Not only am I a (dry) nose-leaker but I am also a condensation sucker (also easier on whistle). I wonder if I'm nice to know ?
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jemtheflute wrote:MTGuru, we're only talking gentle pressure release exhalation, here, not vigorous snorking!
I'm soooo disappointed.
jemtheflute wrote:Snort! Or, in my present state, sniff!
You haven't been kissing any pigs, have you?
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I'd forgotten about the gooseberry ...

... yeuch ...

:o :(

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MTGuru wrote:You haven't been kissing any pigs, have you?
No. Ben would doubtless tell you my nose would get in the way, even should an opportunity and the volition arise - and I'm not (yet?) sufficiently desperate...... or under the influence. And I still have some vestige of a sense of smell!
benhall.1 wrote:I'd forgotten about the gooseberry.


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david_h wrote:Not only am I a (dry) nose-leaker but I am also a condensation sucker (also easier on whistle). I wonder if I'm nice to know ?
How much uck
could a spit-sucker suck
if a spit-sucker could
suck uck?
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45 seconds of good loud tone? That's amazing :) I can never do that.
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Same here. Started with whistle and didn't have enough air for flute. Then enough air for flute but my sense of breathing got off with the whistle. I naturally did a nose-leak even though I wasn't sure it was kosher. The alternative was taking smaller breaths with the whistle but still I felt "impatient" because my phrasing ended before my breath did.

Glad to hear this is normal and there are ways around it. I don't think about it now. I just switch and do it but there was some confusion in the beginning. It was really bad with the narrow bore burke!
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I should own up that my 30 seconds was a quiete second octave g, which I have been practicing because someone here said that was good to do. I do sometimes nose-leak on flute and it may well be a reflection of poor breathing strategy - having to flush out after several quick snatches or dumping air ready for a big fresh breath when a chance is coming up.
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Trip- wrote:45 seconds of good loud tone? That's amazing :) I can never do that.
Thanks for that. Yes, I was quite pleased. But it's incredibly frustrating that, despite getting a nice, strong tone, for what seems like ages, on one note, I can't actually maintain tone for even a single phrase of a tune. Ho hum. Back to the practice.

Actually, I suppose that's not quite true - the tone's not too bad on something slow. It goes off as soon as I try a jig or a reel.
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jemtheflute wrote:Well, I've never seen a Gen leaflet either! By the time I came to whistles in about 1975 I don't think they supplied such any more..
I have one from the 80s, somewhere.
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