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Innocent Bystander wrote:
emmline wrote:
hans wrote:Actually depicts Kalinin, not Trotsky
Unquestionably, even more obscure and desirable. Stump your friends as they come in the front door!
No one passes this hall by me, unless he identifies this Russkee...
(I'm sorry...was that non-pc?)
Obscure? Kalinin? GRANDPA? More obscure than Trotsky? Gevalt! Where do you people live, anyway? Next you'll be telling me you never heard of the Great Patriotic War.
To the average Jehovah's Witness or Miracle Soap salesperson at the American doorstep? Yes indeed.
To the Chiff-at-large? Odds of identification increase substantially.
Personally? I probably would have guessed Trotsky.
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American doorstep? Oh well, that explains it. :P
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Innocent Bystander wrote: Next you'll be telling me you never heard of the Great Patriotic War.
Is that the War of Soviet-Axis Aggression? BTW are these prayer rugs?
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Innocent Bystander wrote:American doorstep? Oh well, that explains it. :P
Yes. The only doorstep about which I can speak authoritatively.
I cannot vouch for the knowledgeability of Jehovah's Witnesses and soap peddlers elsewhere.
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If he had on Che's little beret, I think it would do more for me....I love Che's beret :D
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It looks like Donald Sutherland to me
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dwest wrote:
Innocent Bystander wrote: Next you'll be telling me you never heard of the Great Patriotic War.
Is that the War of Soviet-Axis Aggression?
Right, in the West the conflict was more commonly known as World War II, but in the Soviet Union it was known as The Great Patriotic War. And, yes, in essence TGPW was a matter of Soviet-Axis conflict, in particular as initiated by Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of Soviet territory by Nazi Germany, although there's also a history of events to consider prior to that. For instance, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were in fact commercial trading partners, right up through the later 1930s, and eventually NG and the SU effectively agreed to divide Europe between themselves, in an agreement known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. However, the 1939 invasions by NG, of Austria, of Czechoslovakia, and of Poland heightened the tensions between NG and the SU, and then later, in 1941, Operation Barbarossa effectively kicked off the hostilities between NG and the SU.

BTW, the US supplied war materials to the SU during WWII, mostly by ship at ports such as Murmansk and Arkhangelsk, etc. The subsequent "Cold War" didn't begin until several years after the end of WWII.
dwest wrote:BTW are these prayer rugs?
Prayer rugs, in the Soviet Union? Sheesh, no!

Could the phrase, Godless Communists, sound familiar?
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Pammy wrote:It looks like Donald Sutherland to me
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Cork wrote: For instance, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were in fact commercial trading partners, right up through the later 1930s...
All the combattants were trading partners.

And more, in fact. The british trained members of the Japanese navy and naval pilots. After the first engagement in which japanese bombers sank a flotilla of british ships, the pilot commanding the Japanese squadron - who'd served as an exchange officer in the fleet air arm - landed, refueled, and then returned to the scene alone, dropping a wreath where the ships had gone down. It was also one of the few occasions in which japanese planes refrained from strafing the survivors after sinking a ship; that was this guy's 'thank you' for training him.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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izzarina wrote:If he had on Che's little beret, I think it would do more for me....I love Che's beret :D
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From the size of this (which I think I can deduce from the relative length and weight of the fringe) these would have been about the size and shape of a prayer mat. I wonder if these were what the central asian rug-making industry (craft, really) got assigned to do when official atheism choked off demand for prayer rugs?
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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s1m0n wrote:From the size of this (which I think I can deduce from the relative length and weight of the fringe) these would have been about the size and shape of a prayer mat. I wonder if these were what the central asian rug-making industry (craft, really) got assigned to do when official atheism choked off demand for prayer rugs?
That would be my guess, commissioned propaganda rugs. A bit different than the "War Rugs" people have been bringing back.

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s1m0n wrote:Image

From the size of this (which I think I can deduce from the relative length and weight of the fringe) these would have been about the size and shape of a prayer mat. I wonder if these were what the central asian rug-making industry (craft, really) got assigned to do when official atheism choked off demand for prayer rugs?
Your assessment of its apparent size, and of its potential use, seem plausible. Yet, given the politics of that era, perhaps the development of such a thing could have also been a matter of commercial market exploitation. For instance, years ago there was an apparent public demand, in a commercial sense, for "black velvet" Elvis portraits.

And, along with having an official Communist Party membership card, maybe having one or two of such "Very Red" portraits conspicuously on one's wall could somehow improve one's future prospects, or something like that.

BTW, according to rumors in the news of late, it seems that in Russia there's an ongoing resurrection of former Communist Party officials, perhaps also including a bit of the re-writing of known history. It seems that even Stalin is getting some positive spin, too. Dear old Uncle Joe, what a sweet guy he was! :-D
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hans wrote:
emmline wrote:
hans wrote:Actually depicts Kalinin, not Trotsky
Unquestionably, even more obscure and desirable. Stump your friends as they come in the front door!
No one passes this hall by me, unless he identifies this Russkee...
(I'm sorry...was that non-pc?)
Totally correct, but bad spelling. Ruski means Russian.

On Lenin’s Tomb, 1927
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(Left to Right) Rykov, Bukharin, Kalinin, Uglanov, Stalin, Tomsky.
(Back Row) Murphy and son, Gordon.
Murphy..and son.

Very interesting...

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dubhlinn wrote: Murphy..and son.

Very interesting...
John Thomas (J. T.) Murphy, not the Murphy of Murphy's Law (Edward A. Murphy, Jr.),
“I am a Marxist, a member of the Labour Party, and a sympathizer with the U.S.S.R.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Murphy
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