TG4 documentries on Irish music collectors

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There is, what looks like an interesting series (3) of documentaries coming up on TG4 called “Na Bailitheoiri Ceoil” starting on Wednesday 4th of march at 9.30pm .The documentaries are about Irish music collectors. The first one is about Edward Bunting and I think the other two are about George Petrie and Francis O’Neill.
I.ve seen the programmes advertised on TG4 and tried to find out more about them but the TG4 website doesn’t give anymore information.

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Nice one. Thanks for the heads-up Rory.
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Hi Rory,
After searching the title from your post I came across this;
http://www.stirlingtelevision.co.uk/sit ... UAY6S1ORg=
It does sound very interesting, hopin TG4 will archive it on their website, thanks!
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Thanks John, good to see Ronan Browne involved,I think he is a bit of a collector himself.On the pipers choice DVD I think he plays four versions of the same tune.

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the program is archived Na Bailitheoirí Ceoil - 4/3/09
when you vist the site http://www.tg4.ie go to tg4live (beo)
click on tg4 live in the text and go to Faisnéis - Cartlann

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part two is archived
with a singing ronan browne
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carel wrote:part two is archived
with a singing ronan browne
:party: 500
Ronan's mic is the biggest... no need for a smiley... it's a fact.

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For anyone who can get RTE radio one,there is a St Patricks concert on at 8pm saturday 14th of March. Included is Mick O'Brien playing some of the music collected by Canon James Goodman.


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part 3 archived very interesting
Faisnéis - Cartlann
Na Bailitheoirí Ceoil - 18/3/09

who is the piper at 30 minutes into the program?

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I really enjoyed the Captain O'Neill episode,one thing I didn't know was that Captain O'Neill disliked pipers.He tought they were secretive with their tunes and not to be trusted. So not alot has changed in over 100 years.

Could the piper who played Touhey be Eric Rigler ?

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Joe Shannon mentioned in an interview in 1992 that Chief O'Neill was a lover of the pipes. The Chief's brother-in-law was a piper who was very guarded with his repertoire, which might account for Jackie Small's statement.

Who was the piper playing Touhy? An actor maybe? The props looked real enough - a left handed Taylor set.
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PJ wrote:Joe Shannon mentioned in an interview in 1992 that Chief O'Neill was a lover of the pipes. The Chief's brother-in-law was a piper who was very guarded with his repertoire, which might account for Jackie Small's statement.
Yes, I'd have to agree from his writing that O'Neill held the pipes in very high esteem. He certainly devoted a lot of ink to pipes and pipers in Irish Minstrels and Musicians.
Who was the piper playing Touhy? An actor maybe? The props looked real enough - a left handed Taylor set.
Not quite ;-)

The piper is Tiarnan O Duinnchinn (but the pipes aren't quite what they appear to be). There's a nice cameo of John Hughes in the program too, see if you can spot it :-)
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I'm sure he loved the pipes it's just the people who played them that he didn't like and from his writing I think he considered alot of them to be irresponsible piss artists

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Thanks for posting this: the documentaries were interesting. Wish they'd done a full one on Joyce! Would love to have heard more interpretations of the music as well, except for the cylinders-- would rather have heard the cylinders in full, especially Cronin.
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billh wrote:
PJ wrote:Joe Shannon mentioned in an interview in 1992 that Chief O'Neill was a lover of the pipes. The Chief's brother-in-law was a piper who was very guarded with his repertoire, which might account for Jackie Small's statement.
Yes, I'd have to agree from his writing that O'Neill held the pipes in very high esteem. He certainly devoted a lot of ink to pipes and pipers in Irish Minstrels and Musicians.
Who was the piper playing Touhy? An actor maybe? The props looked real enough - a left handed Taylor set.
Not quite ;-)

The piper is Tiarnan O Duinnchinn (but the pipes aren't quite what they appear to be). There's a nice cameo of John Hughes in the program too, see if you can spot it :-)
Certainly O'Neill devotes more space to biographical sketches of pipers than to any other musicians in IMM. He also seemed to worry greatly about the decline of uilleann piping in the early 20th century and its impact on the decline of Irish traditional music in general. Perhaps it could be said that O'Neill was a lover of pipe music, but not necessarily the individuals producing it.

I was wondering about the bit with Tiarnán playing Tuohey as well. Was he just faking playing left-handed and the music was dubbed in later, or was he playing a right-handed set and they reversed the image somehow? Looked convincing enough, anyways.
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