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Inscrutable , thy name is 'Cat'!

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Casa del S1m0n has boasted a cat for past couple of months, which is a stretch for me. I'm a dog person, trying valiantly to understand cat behaviour.

For instance, the food he gets claims to contain furball-combatting yoghurt. Does anyone know whether this product can be expected to work in forward gear, or in reverse?
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s1m0n wrote:Casa del S1m0n has boasted a cat for past couple of months, which is a stretch for me. I'm a dog person, trying valiantly to understand cat behaviour.

For instance, the food he gets claims to contain furball-combatting yoghurt. Does anyone know whether this product can be expected to work in forward gear, or in reverse?
Reverse. It helps the fur to pass through, rather than coming back the way it went down.

Youtube has videos of "Simon's cat"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s13dLaTIHSg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ffwDYo00Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rb8aOzy9t4

This should help explain behavior.
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It is possible to have both, cats and dogs. The bed gets a little crowded though and everybody wants some face time. Hair balls aren't nearly as much fun as owl pellets, a proverbial biological treasure trove. And when found on the only oriental prayer rug in the house amongst tons of other rugs, well it's obvious they do it on purpose.
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s1m0n wrote:...trying valiantly to understand cat behaviour...
Fat chance. I admire your sense of ambition, but after 45+ years of human/feline cohabitation I have to tell you that cats are not there to be understood. They are there to be obeyed/flattered/worshipped. They have subtle mechanisms designed to confound attempts at understanding.

And they like to hurt you occasionally. They won't usually actually kill you, but they will bide their time and then, out of the blue, they will hurt you. As far as I can gather the timing of the hurt is according to an obscure, and very complicated, feline comedic concept that combines suspense, violence, irony and fishy breath.

"understand cat behaviour"... Yeh, right.
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My cat actually threw up on the kitchen floor the other day. I'm pretty sure it's the first time in 10+ years that she didn't throw up on a carpet somewhere. Got me worried that she was really pretty sick (seems OK now though).

I agree that any attempts to understand feline behavior are bound to be thwarted. Good luck!
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buddhu wrote:
s1m0n wrote:...trying valiantly to understand cat behaviour...
Fat chance. I admire your sense of ambition, but after 45+ years of human/feline cohabitation I have to tell you that cats are not there to be understood. They are there to be obeyed/flattered/worshipped. They have subtle mechanisms designed to confound attempts at understanding.

And they like to hurt you occasionally. They won't usually actually kill you, but they will bide their time and then, out of the blue, they will hurt you. As far as I can gather the timing of the hurt is according to an obscure, and very complicated, feline comedic concept that combines suspense, violence, irony and fishy breath.

"understand cat behaviour"... Yeh, right.
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Look at her just before she decides to eat the sunflower (b-day present from my sister) behind her. (ooh...and Jeff is ellipticalling in the background there. so much info.)
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buddhu wrote:As far as I can gather the timing of the hurt is according to an obscure, and very complicated, feline comedic concept that combines suspense, violence, irony and fishy breath.
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emmline wrote: (ooh...and Jeff is ellipticalling in the background there. so much info.)
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It looks like what Jeff is really doing is riding a Star Wars-style hover-bike, or whatever those things are called that the Storm Troopers zoomed around on in the forest.

On cats:

One member here (Tyghress, I'm pretty certain -- ah, yes it is, per the Search results) has a siggy line that seems to me to capture cat ownership pretty well:
Tyghress' sig wrote:Remember, you didn't get the tiger so it would do what you wanted. You got the tiger to see what it wanted to do. -- Colin McEnroe
My cat's behavior seems to conform, to the extent that cats can be said to conform, to that of those described here. Except my kitty's only got three legs, so she does everything sort of . . . diagonally. Inscrutable still, just also at weird(er) angles.
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Um...I understand my cat just fine. I've understood all of them, to a one.

I think there's something wrong with me.
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Nanohedron wrote:Um...I understand my cat just fine. I've understood all of them, to a one.
Well, sometimes they (or mine) make themselves understood. I sure know when she wants food, anyway, or when the litter box is unacceptably, er, littered.

But, like, can you explain that thing where suddenly they park themselves in front of a wall and just stare, but not all actively like they're hearing a mouse in there or something, just sort of quietly hypnotized? Sometimes it sort of creeps me out.
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Nanohedron wrote:Um...I understand my cat just fine. I've understood all of them, to a one.

I think there's something wrong with me.
Cats are like liberal intellectuals: sneaky and selfish. Dogs are like militarized conservatives, loyal and believing, to their own detriment.

Dogs remind us of the nobility and greater good of faithfulness and loyalty, cats are rarely loyal, but they can be crazy brave when excited. Dogs are rural, cats are urban; the former quite often bear the stench of the great outdoors, the latter obsessively-compulsively trying to eradicate any odor that would give away their presence. If that ain't sneaky, I don't know what is.

You can't trust cats, except to be selfish. Simon, get another dog when the time is right, it will make you better. The cat might keep you warm at night, even while it attacks your eyelids during REM sleep.

The main good of cats is rodent control and its quite a valuable service, I give 'em that. Otherwise, they murder songbirds and make conflicted environmentalists weep.

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herbivore12 wrote:But, like, can you explain that thing where suddenly they park themselves in front of a wall and just stare, but not all actively like they're hearing a mouse in there or something, just sort of quietly hypnotized? Sometimes it sort of creeps me out.
Sure, I can explain it. And Bodhidharma got the idea from them. :)
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Nanohedron wrote:I think there's something wrong with me.
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The Weekenders wrote:...cats are rarely loyal...
Huh? Mine's always palling around with me. Occasionally she'll be off on her own, but if I change rooms, usually she wants to be in the same room too. Sure, she'd not worshipping me as a dog might, but often enough I'll look over my shoulder and catch her just sitting there looking at me with pleasant eyes and face. Unnerving, maybe, but being observed like that IS unnerving. It's intimate. That's gotta tell you something.

And FWIW, she clocks major lap-warming time with me. I'd say that's loyalty, and love. Just on a cat's terms, is all. Perfectly valid to me.
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Many cats are like conservatives, selfish to a fault...me! me!ME!
Dogs on the other hand are not like that at all. Dogs believe everything belongs to them...mine! mine! MINE!
Being a biologist I of course never anthropomorphize, so these descriptions are indeed accurate observations of these organisms true behaviors.

One has only to observe the feeding velocity and duration of multiple subjects in close proximity to recognize this.
BTW none of my animals exhibit any of these behaviors...ever.
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Nanohedron wrote:[
Huh? Mine's always palling around with me. Occasionally she'll be off on her own, but if I change rooms, usually she wants to be in the same room too. Sure, she'd not worshipping me as a dog might, but often enough I'll look over my shoulder and catch her just sitting there looking at me with pleasant eyes and face. Unnerving, maybe, but being observed like that IS unnerving. It's intimate. That's gotta tell you something.

And FWIW, she clocks major lap-warming time with me. I'd say that's loyalty, and love. Just on a cat's terms, is all. Perfectly valid to me.
Ha, what a sucker you are! In the first place, you are the food provider. Secondly, they pall around because they feel safer with their big pink protector nearby. Yeah, they study your face. The better to understand you for future manipulation. And you are the only nearby entertainment. Set a mouse loose and see how long the cat studies your ever gesture.

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