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Don't we all. I have over extended myself to my own shame before. It is a learning experience and overall you are a better musician for it if you learn something. :)
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Dumphey's

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Here's another crack I had at Dumphey's hornpipe. I'm aiming at a dotted rhythm and would like feedback on that.

As I normally do it's a first take. I can hear places where I would change it on a second run. I go for first take to improve confidence on playing live.

This now runs straight from the box web site. Before my files had to be downloaded to temp and played. I didn't have the LAME (to convert the file to MP3) encodeder for audacity loaded. I tried but had messed up the loading process.

http://www.box.net/shared/lktylhsaeh


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I haven't posted anything in a while. Here's Big Pat's Reel on my new Hammy (thanks to Greenspiderweb).

Also recorded with a new microphone, a CAD m179, which is inexpensive and quite versatile.
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monkey587 wrote:I haven't posted anything in a while. Here's Big Pat's Reel on my new Hammy (thanks to Greenspiderweb).
Hey, I know that flute. I've known it for a pretty long time, actually. Ya done good there, monkey587. Sounds good with you behind the wheel.
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Re: Dumphey's

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gorjuswrex wrote:Here's another crack I had at Dumphey's hornpipe. I'm aiming at a dotted rhythm and would like feedback on that.

As I normally do it's a first take. I can hear places where I would change it on a second run. I go for first take to improve confidence on playing live.

This now runs straight from the box web site. Before my files had to be downloaded to temp and played. I didn't have the LAME (to convert the file to MP3) encodeder for audacity loaded. I tried but had messed up the loading process.

http://www.box.net/shared/lktylhsaeh


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Hi Kevin,

Since nobody gave a comment, I'll give you my impression as regards to the dotted rhythm. I've listened several times, and in my opinion, that hornpipe/dotted rhythm is not coming through on this clip. I tried playing it myself with more "dotted rhythmnesss" and I think I struggled a bit. It may be a difficult tune in general to play that way.
I enjoyed the variations. You've got great technique.

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monkey587 wrote:I haven't posted anything in a while. Here's Big Pat's Reel on my new Hammy (thanks to Greenspiderweb).

Also recorded with a new microphone, a CAD m179, which is inexpensive and quite versatile.
William.
Thanks for posting. I think you are sounding great. Good pulse and rhythm. IIf I could add anything I would say to work on tone. The beginning of the 'A' part sounds stronger to me. Also, I think the 'B' part waivers some rhythmically. You seem a little less confident on that part, but perhaps I just need to listen to it a little more?
Post a little more frequently. I enjoy the tunes.
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Unseen122 wrote:As promised I have recorded two new clips of my playing. These are both on my Martin Doyle Rosewood D I will record some on my Copley Eb, but I got my wisdom teeth out yesterday so I am not supposed to play for a couple days. The Noon Day Feast and The Lament for Limerick for whatever reason the recordings are very quiet in person I am usually pretty loud. The Lament is over 6 mins I played it twice without realizing how long that actually takes so be warned.

Enjoy :)
Avery,

Lovely playing on both tunes. I particularly like the uses of vibrato on the air. I, too, noticed the 'glitch on the 'Feast,' but overall it was lovely playing. Nice tone!

BTW, I am awaiting a boxwood Bb from Martin Doyle! Can't wait.

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ImNotIrish wrote:William.
Thanks for posting. I think you are sounding great. Good pulse and rhythm. IIf I could add anything I would say to work on tone. The beginning of the 'A' part sounds stronger to me. Also, I think the 'B' part waivers some rhythmically. You seem a little less confident on that part, but perhaps I just need to listen to it a little more?
Post a little more frequently. I enjoy the tunes.
Arbo
I don't know what to think about tone these days. Every D flute I've ever owned, new or old, has had cracks or other headjoint leaks, and I've developed a pretty bad habit from trying to compensate for the ensuing issues. Indeed, just this morning I glued up a few more leaks on that Hammy's headjoint that I didn't realize were there, which helped correct the dodgy intonation you hear in that recording. Combine that with the fact that I am only playing 3-5 hours a week now, and my progress is likely to be slow for a while.

The fact is that every big name fluter I've heard in person sounds very different than on record, and I realize that I've been trying to get my technique to match a sound that is, in fact, a combination of flute AND mic technique. I tried different mic placement and none of them sounded like what I sound like to myself when I play. Still, I think the mic itself colors the recording less than my other options, as most of my previous samples were recorded with my macbook's internal mic or overly bright mics.

I was surprised that I could get pretty close to the sound of different recordings I've heard which I'd previously assumed were due to the different flutes on which they were made. I think there is no perfectly ideal mic placement, at least not in any room that I have access to. So I try to go with the performance where I was best (if not perfectly) able to let go and express the tune.

Listening again, I hear waivers in the B part... I think it is because this is one of those tunes where I sometimes unintentionally go back into a different tune from the B part, and conscious or not there is confusion and hesitation there. As you can hear, I am still punching the beats too hard, and this was an attempt to play as evenly as possible! In fact, the more I listen to it, the more heavy "handed" it sounds... But it's an accurate representation of how I sound these days.

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William,
Giving feedback always makes me uncomfortable, so take my comments with a grain of salt. Didn't you say that you already know where the 'weak' spots are when you record? God knows I have my own issues to work on. I am also struggling with the mic placement issue. I record into a Mac using a SM58 and
a mixer, recording with Garageband. I'm not a hundred percent happy with the sound, but it does seem to capture the essence of the flute I am playing.
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ImNotIrish wrote:William,
Giving feedback always makes me uncomfortable, so take my comments with a grain of salt. Didn't you say that you already know where the 'weak' spots are when you record? God knows I have my own issues to work on. I am also struggling with the mic placement issue. I record into a Mac using a SM58 and
a mixer, recording with Garageband. I'm not a hundred percent happy with the sound, but it does seem to capture the essence of the flute I am playing.
Arbo
I don't mind the feedback. I think you were right on with it, and I wouldn't post anything if I was afraid of negative feedback. I know I'm not the greatest player, but I don't think I'd be as good as I am if I couldn't listen to my playing and hear what's wrong with it.

Do you play straight into the mic? Usually, if using a "real" mic, I do, but this time I was about 3 feet away and at a 45 degree angle from it, with the foot closer than the headjoint. The problem with micing the flute is that the room itself is important to the sound; I'm never happy with the "blasting into the mic" sound (like in my last one, which was also played on a different flute).

Anyway, I've gone back and listened to some recordings I made since I started playing 4 years ago, and my tone has improved. It'll get there someday, wherever that is. Maybe it'd be easier to get an accurate recording of it if I really know what I wanted it to sound like? I follow my whims as far as tone is concerned and maybe that doesn't help.

Here's a video I made a few weeks or so ago on a flute that I'm more accustomed to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5gTw-l7n4
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The you tube clips sound great! I really like the 'C' flute. You have inspired me to put something up on youtube again.
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Nice tone Monkey! Great stuff :D
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Love the tone you get off that C flute as well. Copley & Boegli make outstanding flutes. Best of luck with it.
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nice playing William.

I only had time to view some of your youtube vids so far.

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Re: Dumphey's

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mahanpots wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Since nobody gave a comment, I'll give you my impression as regards to the dotted rhythm. I've listened several times, and in my opinion, that hornpipe/dotted rhythm is not coming through on this clip. I tried playing it myself with more "dotted rhythmnesss" and I think I struggled a bit. It may be a difficult tune in general to play that way.
I enjoyed the variations. You've got great technique.

Michael
Thanks Michael. I'm really glad someone replied.
I'm slightly surprised and disapointed that I haven't got the dotted rhythm. You provided a very usefull example on whistle this. Also Jem's explanation and detail were excellent. I hope to now go back and study them more as well as studing hornpipe examples. You said this tune might be tricky for dotted rhythm but you seem to dot very well in your whistle this example of non dotted and dotted comparison.
I note that on 'whistle this' Mark P says the the great Kieran Collin plays it undotted.

Kevin
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