Airs played by non-Irish pipers

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:27 am

rorybbellows wrote: The only thing we can look forward to
is the future
RORY

No ye can't...the future ain't formed yet so how can ye look forward to something that doesnae exist

Slán Go Foill
Uilliam

pancelticpiper · Post by **pancelticpiper** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:28 am

To me an air creates its own space, almost its own point in time (or timelessness), and there's a poignancy to the last dripping notes, especially to the last note, when followed by the void of silence.

I don't really care for it when this is stepped upon by another tune.

The Blackbird was bought up. As either Breandan Breathnach or Tomas O Canainn pointed out (I don't remember which just now), Paddy Keenan's famous version does not use the sean nos air to precede the set dance; rather Paddy has slowed down the tune of the set dance and played it in an air style. Thus it is, properly speaking, not an example of a sean nos air followed by a dance tune.

(The title of this thread made me think that the thread might be about airs played by non-Irish pipers, such as the Bavna Pesen played by Bulgarian gaidari. They do indeed nearly always precede a dance tune with a Bavna Pesen.)

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:25 am

pancelticpiper wrote: and there's a poignancy to the last dripping notes, especially to the last note, when followed by the void of silence.

I don't really care for it when this is stepped upon by another tune.

The void of silence may indicate that the punters have had enough and fecked aff to the pub next door....
Wether ye care for playing another tune is neither here nor there...
Its horses for courses.
Some do some don't.
It is certainly not a taboo in Irish Music as Donie said to Nemethink which was the original query
Your preference is exactly that.
Uilliam
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rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:45 am

Uilliam wrote:
rorybbellows wrote: The only thing we can look forward to
is the future
RORY
No ye can't...the future ain't formed yet so how can ye look forward to something that doesnae exist
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam

Imagination! do you not have one ?

RORY

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:05 pm

Of course I do, silly, courtesy of Eric Cartman and friends
IMAGINATIONLAND

This is whit some o ye must be thinking of when playing your slow airs.
My feet are firmly on the ground thanks...expect nothing and ye won't be dissapointed I say.
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam

pancelticpiper · Post by **pancelticpiper** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:39 pm

Time to go take your meds.

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:06 pm

Uilliam wrote:IMAGINATIONLAND

Hey ... it's San Diego! I can see my house from here!

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:09 am

MTGuru wrote:
Uilliam wrote:IMAGINATIONLAND
Hey ... it's San Diego! I can see my house from here!

Is this it ?

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:13 am

pancelticpiper wrote:Time to go take your meds.

Whit do ye personally recommend?

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:18 am

Uilliam wrote:
MTGuru wrote: Hey ... it's San Diego! I can see my house from here!
Is this it ?

Alas, no. But the Hotel Del Coronado is within spitting distance ... if you're a really good spitter.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:19 am

Any thoughts on following a slow air with... say... a lively Scott Joplin number? Yes?... No?...

How about with a Nine Inch Nails tune? Hello?... anybody?...

djm · Post by **djm** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:12 am

You can go back as far as Patsy Tuohey to hear recordings of an air followed by a reel, e.g. Brian the Brave/The Gardener's Daughter.

djm

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:28 am

Bear in mind that there are plenty of airs that aren't associated with any songs, they're just pieces of music that are played slowly.

I appreciate airs from the sean nos tradition, but I honestly do not see why it would be such a big deal following such a piece of music with a tune. Now, of course, it would be different if the air was actually sung; a reel or jig after a "sung" air would seem a little out of place to me... just my 2 cents.

Ceann Cromtha · Post by **Ceann Cromtha** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:28 am

pancelticpiper wrote:(The title of this thread made me think that the thread might be about airs played by non-Irish pipers, such as the Bavna Pesen played by Bulgarian gaidari. They do indeed nearly always precede a dance tune with a Bavna Pesen.)

Don't you think it would be a good idea to give a translation of the Bulgarian? It means 'Slow Song' or slow air -- the equivalent of the topic of this thread.