OK - I give up! What does NYAH mean?

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OK - I give up! What does NYAH mean?

Post by Leel »

Hello All - I have seen the term "nyah" bandied about in several threads.

I get the general sense that it means something to the effect of the "feel" or "aire" of the music being played.

But, I've done a search on the forums and even gone to several on-line celtic language translators and have yet to find anything definitive on the subject.

Help appreciated.

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Not necessarily so easy to define as demontrate.

Plenty of "nyah" here, especially in the first tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uhowyUuqE
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It means talent.
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Baglady wrote:It means talent.
Actually, no, it doesn't. It's a quality in the playing. When some one says "s/he's got (the) nyaah", what's being referred to is not talent per se, although no doubt talent will play its part.

More "nyah":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cmK0WX ... re=related
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It is more a style of playing, the "lift", "lilt" or "swing" (choose your favourite adjective) that sets Irish trad music apart from others, gives it life, sets the room to dancing, makes you want to jump up out of your wheelchair, regrow your hair, etc.

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The trad equivalent of "soul" or "groove" in jazz or blues, that comes out in the "lift" and spirit of one's playing.
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That gutsy upsliding into a note has a lot to do with it, too. Also, really digging in to a note for sonority.

Take my diddly of "Farewell to Erin", for example:

NYAAH de Dum deedle Diddly-idle eedle-idle NYAAH de Dum diddly Up-a-dydle eedle um.

Like that. :wink:

Can a banjo have "nyah" at all? :wink:
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'bout as much as cow bell :D
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Heh. Although on further reflection, I must say that I once heard a kitchen recording of a woman playing a reel on banjo that came pretty darned close to the "nyah" factor. It was dark, deliberate, inexorable, and, surprising to me, full of emotion. Sheer mastery. I'd never heard a banjo played quite so...um...thoroughly, before. Quite the eye-opener, it was.

So yeah, in the right hands, I'd say it's possible.
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I saw this term being used by Paddy Moloney in annotations to Chieftains' 5th (?) album, describing some Derek Bell's ornamentations in "Tiompan Reel"
When you'll get your nyah, i think, you'll notice it=))
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Nyah is notes that make you stretch your neck when playing or listening - bending notes or perfect phrasing. Key or mode changes also give a lot of nyah.

In my book, Tiarnan Ó Duinnchinn has to be the current king of nyah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8blbyNHg ... re=related :D

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MTGuru wrote:The trad equivalent of "soul" or "groove" in jazz or blues, that comes out in the "lift" and spirit of one's playing.
Or "duende" in Flamenco, "sodade" in Fado, etc.

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Literally, it's an onomatepoeic term for sliding into a note; one of many ways that ITM has of accentuating important notes. Figuratively, it's a term describing the property of music (or the player) in which the important notes have been identified and accentuated correctly, adding immensely to the emotional impact of the preformance.
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s1m0n wrote:Literally, it's an onomatepoeic term for sliding into a note; one of many ways that ITM has of accentuating important notes. Figuratively, it's a term describing the property of music (or the player) in which the important notes have been identified and accentuated correctly, adding immensely to the emotional impact of the preformance.
Yep. Well put. Thanks. I also think Mukade's mention of key changes contributing to "nyah" has merit, too. Also, "odd" notes, such as the Fnat as often played in An Buachaill Dreoite, have the potential for "nyah", but it's all in the playing. A MIDI file won't have it even if the notes are there.

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"NYAH" = the opposite of "BLAH."
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