I'm sure that it lessons many of us.talasiga wrote:But I am saddened that two different posters have said "cork town ironwood" independently.
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Hall and McGee
In my last post I said,
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I really should take a picture of the two side by side.
It occurs to me that maybe an explanation is in order so that folks won't think I'm comparing apples and rhubarb. Here's a pic of each, scaled the same. The perspective and lighting is different, as Jon C. took the picture of the Hall, but you should see that they're very similar, other than the keys, wood, tuning slide, rings and age, lol.The only thing that I have to compare it with is my William Hall.
<img src="http://flintrockdesigns.com/images/imag ... ropped.jpg" width="900" height="59">
<img src="http://flintrockdesigns.com/images/imag ... scaled.jpg" width="900" height="72">
I really should take a picture of the two side by side.
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Denny wrote:I'm sure that it lessons many of us.talasiga wrote:But I am saddened that two different posters have said "cork town ironwood" independently.
Its meant to be coming talasiga... silly Denny.
cork cork cork cork cork cork cork!
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..But not before founding the celebrated travel agency of the same name.talasiga wrote:This is a place in Australia named after the first English captain to have charted the East Coast. He was killed in Hawaii by the natives there.
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".But not before founding the celebrated travel agency of the same name."
Captain Crook apparantly upset the locals when he arrived at an unsuitable time and after the locals had helped themselves to one of his boats, Crook not excactly famous for his social skills, tried to take the local chief hostage, this failed, whereupon the locals killed him. It´s not at all certain that he was eaten, rather it was the local custom to roast the deceased to get rid of the flesh and just save the skeleton
Captain Crook apparantly upset the locals when he arrived at an unsuitable time and after the locals had helped themselves to one of his boats, Crook not excactly famous for his social skills, tried to take the local chief hostage, this failed, whereupon the locals killed him. It´s not at all certain that he was eaten, rather it was the local custom to roast the deceased to get rid of the flesh and just save the skeleton
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If I were a sailor I'd be happy if my captain's name were Cork. A fellow like that would never sink.
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Of course, there's always the Captain Pugwash character Seaman Staines.
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OK, seriously ....
Sorry lazyleft, see what a nest you innocently walked into?
I played a blackwood McGee Pratten with the "rounded rectangles" embouchure for three years. It was my main gig flute. It was the quintessential Pratten -- big, loud, and very inclined toward a round sound. Super-easy to fill, super-solid flute. Every bit of it was very well-made. I did not find it hard to hold or balance (in fact that balance was really good); I also didn't find the reach worse or the holes any harder to cover than most other flutes. In fact, I would say that of all the flutes I've played this one was the easiest and most reliable. "Honest" is the word that comes to mind whenever I think of that flute.
However, if I was to have that flute now I would probably look into another head with the traditional or elliptical embouchure cut -- the rounded rectangles, while dead easy to play (a person with a piece of cod for a lip could probably have gotten a fairly consistent sound out of my flute) and get a solid tone on, seemed to disagree with my desire to put an "edge" on notes.
It was plenty dark but it was a big, fat, round sort of dark (as Prattens often are); I like a sharper dark. (Hence my emigration into Murray land)
Anyway, I've also played Dow's flute and I would say the workmanship is similar and that the GLP was not much softer to my ear. Ultimately, I think I liked Dow's flute better -- I was moving to the Rudall camp even then -- it had a more focused tone. I can't remember what the blowhole cut is on yours, Dow, but it's a fine flute, especially in the price range.
So I think you'd be happy with your choice, lazyleft, but as you've played in the past I would strongly suggest something other than the rounded rectangles cut. It's a wonderfully accessible cut, but I think with your past you might want more "nyaah-ability" (that's what I call reediness) once you fitten back up.
Sorry lazyleft, see what a nest you innocently walked into?
I played a blackwood McGee Pratten with the "rounded rectangles" embouchure for three years. It was my main gig flute. It was the quintessential Pratten -- big, loud, and very inclined toward a round sound. Super-easy to fill, super-solid flute. Every bit of it was very well-made. I did not find it hard to hold or balance (in fact that balance was really good); I also didn't find the reach worse or the holes any harder to cover than most other flutes. In fact, I would say that of all the flutes I've played this one was the easiest and most reliable. "Honest" is the word that comes to mind whenever I think of that flute.
However, if I was to have that flute now I would probably look into another head with the traditional or elliptical embouchure cut -- the rounded rectangles, while dead easy to play (a person with a piece of cod for a lip could probably have gotten a fairly consistent sound out of my flute) and get a solid tone on, seemed to disagree with my desire to put an "edge" on notes.
It was plenty dark but it was a big, fat, round sort of dark (as Prattens often are); I like a sharper dark. (Hence my emigration into Murray land)
Anyway, I've also played Dow's flute and I would say the workmanship is similar and that the GLP was not much softer to my ear. Ultimately, I think I liked Dow's flute better -- I was moving to the Rudall camp even then -- it had a more focused tone. I can't remember what the blowhole cut is on yours, Dow, but it's a fine flute, especially in the price range.
So I think you'd be happy with your choice, lazyleft, but as you've played in the past I would strongly suggest something other than the rounded rectangles cut. It's a wonderfully accessible cut, but I think with your past you might want more "nyaah-ability" (that's what I call reediness) once you fitten back up.
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Hey Cat,Cathy Wilde wrote:Anyway, I've also played Dow's flute and I would say the workmanship is similar and that the GLP was not much softer to my ear. Ultimately, I think I liked Dow's flute better -- I was moving to the Rudall camp even then -- it had a more focused tone. I can't remember what the blowhole cut is on yours, Dow, but it's a fine flute, especially in the price range.
Mine has the improved elliptical embouchure.
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what about the shape of the head? i mean, normal bore vs eccentric?
i would guess that the eccentric bore makes the flute even easier to play, but again giving a brighter sound. so what would be the difference between a rectangular embouchure with normal head and elliptical embouchure with eccentric head (and elliptcal embouchure with normal head)?
i would guess that the eccentric bore makes the flute even easier to play, but again giving a brighter sound. so what would be the difference between a rectangular embouchure with normal head and elliptical embouchure with eccentric head (and elliptcal embouchure with normal head)?
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