Brian Finnegan - how does he ...

fruladog · Post by **fruladog** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:59 pm

... play the stacatto notes around 3:03 into
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7GH_tLQds ?
tonguing, fingering, or both?
Yeah, I know it's not ITM, but it's a challenge.

Sober Sam · Post by **Sober Sam** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:08 pm

I can't hear him play any staccato notes. Thanks for the link though! I just love Flook. Brian Finnigan is an effing whizard on the whistle.

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:38 pm

Yes, I hear. That's triple-tonguing, a characteristic of Brian's playing. Usually executed t-k-t or t-t-k, though I don't know his preference.

Not ITM ... Well, Brian's playing is rooted in Irish trad, and he uses 'em. Draw your own conclusions.

BTW, does your Location DM03tv mean you're in Manhattan Beach?

fruladog · Post by **fruladog** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:50 pm

MTGuru wrote: BTW, does your Location DM03tv mean you're in Manhattan Beach?

You're the first to ask. Check your PM for more.

Belgian_Waffle · Post by **Belgian_Waffle** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:59 am

Just what MtGuru said. Triple tonguing is a trademark of Brian Finnigan. You can hear it really well in the clip where he plays Rolling in the Ryegrass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKoMBFOa ... re=related).

More on triple tonguing in a recent post about the Mason's Apron (http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php ... ple#773711).

Sober Sam · Post by **Sober Sam** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:42 am

MTGuru wrote:Yes, I hear. That's triple-tonguing, a characteristic of Brian's playing. Usually executed t-k-t or t-t-k, though I don't know his preference.

Not ITM ... Well, Brian's playing is rooted in Irish trad, and he uses 'em. Draw your own conclusions.

BTW, does your Location DM03tv mean you're in Manhattan Beach?

Maybe at that speed, anything that's not legato is staccato, I dunno, but usually a staccato note is played very short (pa pa pa instead of paaapaaapaaa); shorter than it's actual value.
But let's leave the dreadful topic of music theorie and get back to appreciating the whizardry of the great Brian Finnigan.

rh · Post by rh » Thu May 08, 2008 6:04 am

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php ... ets#183480

mahanpots · Post by **mahanpots** » Thu May 08, 2008 6:30 am

MTGuru wrote:Yes, I hear. That's triple-tonguing, a characteristic of Brian's playing. Usually executed t-k-t or t-t-k, though I don't know his preference.

Not ITM ... Well, Brian's playing is rooted in Irish trad, and he uses 'em. Draw your own conclusions.

BTW, does your Location DM03tv mean you're in Manhattan Beach?

Sounds to me more like a T-D-D or T-D-L...

Michael

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:54 am

mahanpots wrote:Sounds to me more like a T-D-D or T-D-L...

Yep, that could very well be right. That other thread says a fast T-T-T. Lots of different ways to produce the effect.

kennychaffin · Post by **kennychaffin** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:42 am

Sober Sam wrote:I can't hear him play any staccato notes. Thanks for the link though! I just love Flook. Brian Finnigan is an effing whizard on the whistle.

Yep, I'm loving these guys more the more I hear of them. I'm gonna have to go buy their albums!

It definitely looks/sounds like a tonguing technique to me. Triple tonguing or that sort of thing that other wind players use.

BTW there is an interview with him here:

http://www.firescribble.net/flute/finnegan.html

KAC

fruladog · Post by **fruladog** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:26 am

Sober Sam wrote: Maybe at that speed, anything that's not legato is staccato, I dunno, but usually a staccato note is played very short (pa pa pa instead of paaapaaapaaa); shorter than it's actual value.

SS, thanks for the clarification. It was simply too fast for me to comprehend, let alone describe.

Jetboy · Post by **Jetboy** » Fri May 09, 2008 5:37 am

MTGuru wrote:Yes, I hear. That's triple-tonguing, a characteristic of Brian's playing. Usually executed t-k-t or t-t-k, though I don't know his preference.

You can also get an easy triple tonguing effect using the 'diddly' method. A liitle easier than T-K-T method as the first and last cuts are more of a 'duh' than a 'tuh' and teh middle cut is made at the front of the mouth not the back of the throat.

You can also 'gargle' with the throat and this gives a longer fluttering effect to the note. More effecitve on a flute maybe rahter than a whistle.

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Fri May 09, 2008 6:37 am

He "flutter-tongues" too at times

but don't ask me to quote examples. I've got quite a few Flook albums and, I think, his youthful Upstairs in a Tent one somewhere, but I don't listen to 'em much - I'm not a fan. I wish I was even half as good as he is, but whilst appreciating his technical mastery, I don't like his aesthetics much (generalisation - I'm sure there are tracks I do like, or would if I got more familiar with them). There are loads of other fluters out there, including ones who make just as much of a show of their virtuosity as BF does, but in different styles, in ways that don't get on my wick, to whom I much prefer to listen.

Sidhe · Post by **Sidhe** » Wed May 21, 2008 2:32 pm

Does anyone know what kind of whistles he uses? They look like Overtons.

kennychaffin · Post by **kennychaffin** » Wed May 21, 2008 2:38 pm

Sidhe wrote:Does anyone know what kind of whistles he uses? They look like Overtons.

See here: http://www.thesession.org/discussions/d ... 1/comments

KAC