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I like 'em, myself. The asymmetry appeals to me.

What I liked best about the coins in England when we were there was the thickness of the 1 pound coin. Rather than doing what we Yanks have been doing forever with our "silver dollars" and making the coin bigger in diameter (to the point where it's impractical to carry one in one's pocket) or so like a quarter you can barely tell the difference, they went with a coin that is distinctly different (to the point where you can easily tell it from other coins just by the feel), yet practical.

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I'm with you, MTGuru (though that's not necessarily something you want to admit in public). I think they look godawful. But that's just me.

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They remind me of the new nickels. This incomplete off-kelter thing seems to be the trend among the trendy mints.
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The Weekenders wrote:Wish they did closeups. I think they are interesting looking but it surprises me to see non-round coins when you think of vending machines and such. I assume it's way easier to accomodate a round coin than angular...
The shapes aren't changing - the 50p and 20p coins are those shapes currently. The colours haven't been changed either.

If I ever see these in circulation I'll take some closeups for you. I don't recall hearing anything about this in 2005, strangely, and I like coins so I would have remembered.
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I really like them. I'm amazed they went with such a contemporary idea.
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Thon Beeb has close-up pictures.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7327144.stm

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These new British coins remind me of some of the new US coins and notes.
I think it shows the influence of the "clip art" approach to design, rather than a traditional organic approach which respects the format.

If you look at the old US notes, each was a unique, lovely, balanced work of art which was carefully designed to fit its format. Each of the four corners of EACH denomination was unique.

Then the new notes came out, with their clip-art look. It's the look you get whenever somebody who doesn't know anything about design sits at a computer using some kind of software that allows them to import clip art images, change their size and orientation, etc. "Oooh! I can make this President's head REALLY big! And look! I can move it over here or over there or anywhere I want!" All with no sense of proportion, balance, negative space, format, or any other artistic sensibility.

Now, are the results interesting? Certainly they are novel. But will they be pleasing in the long run? Only time will tell.
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I like the 10p and 2p, and the 5pence isnt' too bad. But the 20 and 1p piece
look too much like mistakes. So much negative space... I can see the idea
though, the pound coin is the whole Royal Arms and divisions of the pound
are snapshots of different fractions of that seal. Suck on that, EU!
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They are surprisingly imaginative for what they are. Overall, I am astounded to say that I am very impressed.

I was expecting a load of superficial changes or a total change of coinage that would have confused the heck out of senior citizens.

These are really very good indeed.
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Imagine the debates that happened with the people who actually made the decision about the coins. I bet there are some traditionalists and modernists who are either not speaking to each other or waiting for a good chance for revenge.
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avanutria wrote:The shapes aren't changing - the 50p and 20p coins are those shapes currently. The colours haven't been changed either.
Thanks for pointing that out; I was unaware of it. I do think that the overall effect, to my eyes, of referring to ancient hand-minted coinage is particularly enhanced by the seven-sided profile. I have no idea if the designer had any of this in mind, but it sure came out that way for me.

I imagine this minting will be more collected than circulated.
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People always hoard new coins when they come out. The mint has to allow for that. But they'll be in currency soon enough.

I'm just amused that people will be able to say "Heads or harps" (because of the partial harp on the penny and the ten pence piece) just like they do in Ireland.

Must admit that the Argentinian money looks like the truck tokens the British Mills used to issue, so you had to buy from the Mill shop when you got "paid".
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As an artist, coin design is just simply interesting to me.

I followed (and am still following) the progress of the US "State Quarters".

For those who don't know, a few years ago the US Mint began making quarters (25p) dedicated to the various US States.

They came out with four new State designs each year, so of course it will take several years to get through all 50 States. The State quarters are issued in order of the date of each State's admission to the Union. Alaska and Hawai'i will of course be last.

Being in California, I followed the progress of the design selection process for the California quarter.
First, designs were accepted from anyone.
Then 40 or so of the "best" (I'm not sure who picked the 40 out of the thousands submitted) were put up on a website for a year, and anyone could vote for the design they liked.
I followed the voting, and was dismayed that people seemed to be unduly influenced by the way in the which the design was presented rather than by the actual design itself. I say this because the designs were presented in a variety of ways: some were sketches, some were done by using "clip art", and some were beautifully rendered by some computer program that made it look like a finished, three-dimensional coin.
Invariably the designs rendered thus were the top vote-getters, while far superior designs which happened to be simple sketches got few votes. (Artists are used to looking at a simple "thumbnail" sketch and visualising how the finished product will look, but evidently the general public is not.)
The range of design ideas and styles was enormous.
Many displayed a lack of awareness of the format- a coin only about an inch across- and were cluttered with all sorts of things (one design had the Golden Gate bridge, and mountains, and palm trees, and a Space Shuttle, and movie film canisters, and a California Condor, and a gold miner '49 panning for gold! The designer needed to be reminded that it's a coin, not a mural).
The best designs, of course, were the simplest: the Golden Gate bridge, a giant tree (the world's largest and oldest living things are native to California, and I don't mean washed-up actresses!).
One particularly nice design simply had waves and the sun (too bad there's nothing specific to California in that).
Perhaps the most bizarre design had Queen Califa hanging ten on a surfboard.

Anyhow the three top votegetters went to the Governor, who selected the final design.
It was John Muir hiking in Yosemite valley.
But, the final actual coin was designed by the engravers at the US mint who, apparently not realising that Yosemite is a valley, left the valley walls out, so that Yosemite's Half Dome looks more like Mount Fuji rising out of a vast plain.

I don't know what Hawai'i will go with. I'm hoping for a picture of a humuhumnukunukuapua'a.

West Virginia's is just a bridge. There ain't nothin' else there. I know.

One state- is it New Hampshire?- is perhaps unique in that its quarter is probably the only one to feature something that no longer exists: a rock that supposedly resembles a human face, that fell down a couple years after the coin was issued. (Or so I'm told.)
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O O. You got me wound up about West Virginia's coin. We were given two options, the New River Bridge and a quilt pattern. I worked diligently to stack the deck and promoting the quilt. Folks said they didn't see what was so West Virginian about quilts. I always vote for the losers.
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