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- straycat82
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I say come as you are when it comes to sessions and community gatherings where you aren't a paid performer. If a fellow musician showed up at a session wearing a green blazer or the like, I'd have trouble taking him seriously.
If you are performing I think that a paying audience deserves a certain level of professionalism (music being the first priority IMO and dress a close second).
On the other hand:
Based on what I've experienced locally, if I walk into a pub and see a group of "musicians" dressed "Irish" or in matching outfits I typically expect to hear green beer songs. I usually won't make it through the opening set. The times I've walked in to see a group of average looking Joes wearing blue jeans and t-shirts, I've usually ended up enjoying some brilliant music.
If you are performing I think that a paying audience deserves a certain level of professionalism (music being the first priority IMO and dress a close second).
On the other hand:
Based on what I've experienced locally, if I walk into a pub and see a group of "musicians" dressed "Irish" or in matching outfits I typically expect to hear green beer songs. I usually won't make it through the opening set. The times I've walked in to see a group of average looking Joes wearing blue jeans and t-shirts, I've usually ended up enjoying some brilliant music.
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OK, no mention of what's under the kilt. Is is true that nothing is worn beneath?pancelticpiper wrote:Now, I USED to dress like this:
feather bonnet $400 (yes it's hollow inside)
doublet $800
kilt $500
full plaid $300
tartan hosetops, custom knit to match kilt $200
waistbelt and crossbelt set $300
dirk $1000
sgian dubh $200
plaid brooch $100
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I have yet to play Irish music publicly (and it will probably be a while) but as the guitarist for a hardcore punk band I wear what I wear in normal life, combat boots, jeans, a t-shirt, a scally cap, and an old army motorcycle jacket or flight jacket. Occasionally I will dress up by swapping the scally cap to a fedora or even a bowler, the t-shirt to a button up, my belt for suspenders, and occasionally even my jeans to work type pants and boots to doc martens. I suspect I would wear the same thing performing Irish music.
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That is one of those questions that could start a thread extension that could go on for days. When I first started to learn the pipes, I was the base drummer in the band. Never having worn a kilt in public, I was shocked at the questions that I was asked, and by whom. You learn very quickly some "cute" answers to appease the question, but never quite answer. That is part of the mystique of a kilt. I was standing on a street in a little resort town near here that we as a band had been playing in. My soon to be wife was close by watching the goings on, when 2 elderly ladies walked up and flanked me on both sides, wanting a pictures taken with a piper I had just got through playing for a small crowd that had gathered, so there was quite a few people listening. The older of the two ladies asked very loudly, "What is worn under the kilt?" I made some comment like, "A gentleman never tells" or something along that line. Just as a picture was about to be taken and we were told to "smile," the one on the right reaches up under my kilt and grabs a handful of my buttocks, and loudly proclaims, "I told you Beth that he doesn't wear anything under this thing." I could have died. My soon to be wife about blew a soft drink out of her nose that she was just taking a drink out of. The crowd went into hysterics. I turned 40 shades of red, and then she asks me, very loudly, "You want to meet for drinks later this evening?" She was someone that truly enjoyed life and was not afraid to have a good time.Tucson Whistler wrote:OK, no mention of what's under the kilt. Is is true that nothing is wornpancelticpiper wrote:Now, I USED to dress like this:
feather bonnet $400 (yes it's hollow inside)
doublet $800
kilt $500
full plaid $300
tartan hosetops, custom knit to match kilt $200
waistbelt and crossbelt set $300
dirk $1000
sgian dubh $200
plaid brooch $100
beneath?
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It depends if you prefer following a stupid myth and risking cold fronts in the south or keeping the kids warms and protecting your modesty.Tucson Whistler wrote: OK, no mention of what's under the kilt. Is is true that nothing is worn beneath?
Feel free not to read the next bit, I'm going to go off on one...
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Few things irk me more than "are you a true scotsman?". Well yes, I was born in Scotland to Scottish parents in the same part of the country that they themselves were born and brought up in and I can trace my family as far back as you can go to the same part of Scotland. I'm as true a Scotsman as anyone living in this country and whether or not I wear my boxer shorts under my kilt doesn't change that fact
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However many people choose to freeze their bollocks off in the name of "being a true scotsman" and it is them than find themselves running away from drunken ladies who want to lift up their kilt and take pictures (Imagine if a guy did this? How quickly would they be arrested?).
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I'm another one who treats sessions as "come as you are" affairs. Jeans, a T-shirt or sweater, maybe a sun dress in summer. I don't see a session as a "performance," even if people in the pub do enjoy listening to the music...it's more of a social gathering in my mind. I probably wouldn't go to one in workout clothes, or covered in mud from the garden, but then I wouldn't go to a bar dressed that way even if I weren't playing.
For performance, including busking, it's a different matter, and for me, it depends on the venue. With the harp, most of the playing out I've done has been in places where some sort of "period" costume is required, so it's Ren Faire garb for me. Even when I'm playing in a place that doesn't have such requirements, I tend to wear something that's a little bit Renny" (long, full skirt, decorated bodice, long hair down) just because it fits an image that audiences seem to find pleasing. I've never busked with the harp, but even then, I think I'd go for the slightly Renny look...it's just part of the package. For playing in church, I prefer formal concert black, even though I'm playing traditional music. For busking with the whistle (which I haven't done in years, alas!), I always went the "neatly dressed college student route."
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For performance, including busking, it's a different matter, and for me, it depends on the venue. With the harp, most of the playing out I've done has been in places where some sort of "period" costume is required, so it's Ren Faire garb for me. Even when I'm playing in a place that doesn't have such requirements, I tend to wear something that's a little bit Renny" (long, full skirt, decorated bodice, long hair down) just because it fits an image that audiences seem to find pleasing. I've never busked with the harp, but even then, I think I'd go for the slightly Renny look...it's just part of the package. For playing in church, I prefer formal concert black, even though I'm playing traditional music. For busking with the whistle (which I haven't done in years, alas!), I always went the "neatly dressed college student route."
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I too can't imagine wearing a kilt without some "coverage". You never know what sort of idiot or drunk (or drunk idiot) or inquisitive child or strong wind may come your way.chrisoff wrote:... many people choose to freeze their bollocks off in the name of "being a true scotsman" and it is them than find themselves running away from drunken ladies who want to lift up their kilt...
I know some pipers to go to the point of wearing beach shorts (sort of like a bathing suit, sort of like Bermuda shorts). The added benefit is that they can take off their kilt as soon as they're done with the gig.
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The real scotsman c. 1550 wore bike shorts and so do we todayhttp://hdl.handle.net/1854/225
Daithi Sproule tells the tale of Altan doing an awards show of some kind and dressing in their rolled up shirt sleeves and jeans when in walked another band in tuxes. "Thanks for making us look like @#$%!" he said.
Daithi Sproule tells the tale of Altan doing an awards show of some kind and dressing in their rolled up shirt sleeves and jeans when in walked another band in tuxes. "Thanks for making us look like @#$%!" he said.
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Put the music under thier feet and lift them to the dance.
Oh, and,
"If you want to play chords, use standard tuning. It is better." --Martin Carthy
Put the music under thier feet and lift them to the dance.
Oh, and,
"If you want to play chords, use standard tuning. It is better." --Martin Carthy
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Brilliant! Next parade, I'm wearing my obnoxious flowery bermudas under my kilt, and when anyone asks, I will not hesitate to let 'em have it.pancelticpiper wrote:I know some pipers to go to the point of wearing beach shorts (sort of like a bathing suit, sort of like Bermuda shorts). The added benefit is that they can take off their kilt as soon as they're done with the gig.
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