IB wrote:Goodness! It almost feels like I'm in a minority, here.
If it makes you feel any better, I can't stand Cohen's stuff either; drab, bloated and pretentious. But then again, I can't stand Dylan, I love Eric Bogle's Green Fields of France and Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
djm
Hi deej
If you had heard them murdered as often as I have, you would hate them too.
David
Payday, Piping, Percussion and Poetry- the 4 best Ps
dubhlinn wrote:in the matter of Jeff Buckley we will have to beg to differ.
I guess so!
I love Grace as an album. It's almost entirely brilliant.
My reasoning with the Tim Buckley thing is that while it may have been mentioned that he was the son of Tim Buckley I don't think many people of my generation will have paid any attention to it. I only know of Tim Buckley because of Jeff, not the other way round.
What I'm saying is that his father wasn't famous enough to be as big a reason for his own success as you're implying.
Just wanted to add myself to the pool of for the KDLang version of that song. And generally, I'm not a huge fan of hers (not that I dislike her, just not a habitual listener is all).
BD wrote:If you had heard them murdered as often as I have, you would hate them too.
Hi, Dave. Not looking to argue or fight. I just happen to like those songs, but I know what you mean. That was a particularly nasty bit of GoF you linked to on YT. I prefer The Fureys' version.
My point was simply that we all here have very different tastes, and posting them here does not make any individual's tastes any "better" or their opinion any more "correct". We just is what we be.
(But, man, Dylan really sucks the big one.)
djm
I'd rather be atop the foothills than beneath them.
BD wrote:If you had heard them murdered as often as I have, you would hate them too.
Hi, Dave. Not looking to argue or fight. I just happen to like those songs, but I know what you mean. That was a particularly nasty bit of GoF you linked to on YT. I prefer The Fureys' version.
My point was simply that we all here have very different tastes, and posting them here does not make any individual's tastes any "better" or their opinion any more "correct". We just is what we be.
(But, man, Dylan really sucks the big one.)
djm
Well I agree with you about Dylan I like his songs, but cannot stand his singing.
The first verse is obvious. The second verse is about Sampson & Delilah,
the rest depends on which version we're talking about...
Interesting interpretation of a song.
I am not a Christian nor a fan of Samson and his life..the rest is probably dependent on both of those qualifications..apart from that I absolutely love the song.
Slan,
D.
And many a poor man that has roved,
Loved and thought himself beloved,
From a glad kindness cannot take his eyes.
I have long considered Leonard Cohen to be the real deal. Dylan has seemed like a fake from the beginning, an imitator, even though I find his songs catchy, and some of his poetry memorable. Cohen's pretty darn original.
What's weird about the appeal is that in some way, hearing Cohen's songs "prettified" kind of wrecks 'em for me, because of the way I discovered Cohen. The alpha geek in my old office used to play his "Best of.." record over and over again. At first I thought it was weird, but not as bad as his Diamandas Galas CD. But he grew on me, and now I am pretty fond of him singing his own songs, just the way he does...
The first verse is obvious. The second verse is about Sampson & Delilah,
the rest depends on which version we're talking about...
Interesting interpretation of a song.
I am not a Christian nor a fan of Samson and his life..the rest is probably dependent on both of those qualifications..apart from that I absolutely love the song.
You can never be sure how much people know. If Dub did not see all the Scriptural references in the song, he may not have realized the full meaning of the title. It's better to state the obvious and look boring than to assume somebody knows something when they don't.
Related to the saying "there are no stupid questions, only questions unasked" could be a saying which went something like "there are no stupid explanations, only explanations unoffered."
Cranberry wrote:
You can never be sure how much people know. If Dub did not see all the Scriptural references in the song, he may not have realized the full meaning of the title. It's better to state the obvious and look boring than to assume somebody knows something when they don't.
Related to the saying "there are no stupid questions, only questions unasked" could be a saying which went something like "there are no stupid explanations, only explanations unoffered."
In my book, it's much better to err on the side of assuming that people know as much as I do or more, especially online. And especially especially when it comes to subjects I care about. The temptation to prate and bore is too great for me otherwise.
And David & Bathsheba haven't been mentioned. ("You saw her bathing on the roof...")
for the KDLang version of that song. And generally, I'm not a huge fan of hers (not that I dislike her, just not a habitual listener is all).
