"Sweet-tone" or "Sweet 1"? (a "because I'm bored" poll)

burnsbyrne · Post by **burnsbyrne** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 6:46 am

On 2002-12-02 07:33, Tony wrote:
Yeah, like la-bore-ah-tory?

Tony,
Shouldn't that be la-bore-ah-tree?
Mike

Easily_Deluded_Fool · Post by **Easily_Deluded_Fool** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 6:49 am

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Tony · Post by **Tony** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 6:54 am

Mike, I think you're right. I worked for someone from South Africa and he seemed to use the 'tory ending instead of 'tree.
It's hard to keep up with it all.
I worked with a guy from Haiti who came into the office looking for 'ah-spee-din' it took me 4 or 5 tries to figure out he wanted asprin!

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:21 am

On 2002-12-02 07:23, Martin Milner wrote:

Try Gloucestershire for size, we Limeys love the way you Yanks and Aussies get all tongue tied with that!

Never had a problem with that one, Martin. When my parents visited England, they thought they saw the pattern, Gloucester, Worcester, Bicester .... Guess what they said when they got to Cirencester? Ohhhh, dear!

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:43 am

On 2002-12-02 04:18, Walden wrote:
On 2002-12-02 02:11, Wombat wrote:
Pee or puke. Doesn't seem like much of a choice for such a nice little nut.
The word comes from an old American Indian term meaning, essentially, "hard shelled nut."

Thanks for the corrective Walden. I'd actually guessed as much from the gap between any plausible phonetic pronunciation and 'southern' pronunciation which I suppose is closer to the Indian original than the widely used alternative.

Martin Milner · Post by **Martin Milner** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 8:51 am

On 2002-12-02 08:21, Wombat wrote:
On 2002-12-02 07:23, Martin Milner wrote:

Try Gloucestershire for size, we Limeys love the way you Yanks and Aussies get all tongue tied with that!

Never had a problem with that one, Martin. When my parents visited England, they thought they saw the pattern, Gloucester, Worcester, Bicester .... Guess what they said when they got to Cirencester? Ohhhh, dear!

Durn! Well, as I don't think we have any posters from Wales, try Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll-llantysiliogogogoch.

Yes it is a real place!
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I've been there, and when we were kids we all learnt how to say it! I can't get half way through now, but then I am very old & decrepit.

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Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 9:46 am

On 2002-12-02 07:49, Easily_Deluded_Fool wrote:
Shhhh.

Where’s this old backup ? Gotcha...

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OutOfBreath · Post by **OutOfBreath** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:32 am

Back to the original topic...

I always thought it was pronounced "swee - tone" and was named thus because they sound like squeeling pigs...

(grinning, ducking, and runnin' for cover)

PS: Come to think of it, maybe they're secretly made in Georgia - it would also be pronounced "Swee Tone" there...

John

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Tony · Post by **Tony** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 12:28 pm

Wouldn't they be called a 'sue-ee-tone' then?

Redwolf · Post by **Redwolf** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:00 pm

On 2002-12-02 03:48, Dewhistle wrote:
None of these have given me much trouble, but for some reason I am the only person I know who says caramel, instead of CAR-mel. People will cling to a way of saying a word until they have to have it proven to them that sherbet isn't sher-bert... I had to prove that to 5 other co-eds in college, not so much to lord it over them as to feel vindicated for the looks I got when I said it right.

And, of course, if you ever come to this part of California, you'll have to get used to saying "car-MEL"...at least when you're speaking of the town of which Clint Eastwood once was mayor

Another word that is pronounced differently here than just about any other place I've lived is "rodeo." We give it the Spanish pronunciation: "ro-DAY-oh" (and you'll immediately identify yourself as a newbie if you tell people you're going to the Salinas "ROH-dee-oh").

And then there's Clement Street, in San Francisco. I can't begin to count the times I've given a tourist a blank look when they've asked how to get to "CLEH-munt" (it's "cleh-MINT").

Redwolf

Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:10 pm

Landing 1st time, fresh-of-the-boat, in the US back in '79, NYC, NY...

Asked my way to (Houston) HUE-ston street. Took 1O persons before one helped, by guessing :"Oh, you mean HOW-ston street ?"
Now guess how I blundered when I first visited Houston, Texas

burnsbyrne · Post by **burnsbyrne** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:41 pm

The carmel/caramel problem occurs in English (or Mer'cun) from two words which sound similar but have different origins. Carmel refers to a mountain in Haifa, Israel. The California town of Carmel probably was named something like Mission de Nuestra Senora de Carmel. Caramel, the candy, is pronounced caramelo in Italian and Spanish, where it refers to any bite-sized candy. But we English speakers don't like those little syllables in the middle of words so we dropped it. I think.
Mike

Redwolf · Post by **Redwolf** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:50 pm

On 2002-12-02 15:41, burnsbyrne wrote:
The carmel/caramel problem occurs in English (or Mer'cun) from two words which sound similar but have different origins. Carmel refers to a mountain in Haifa, Israel. The California town of Carmel probably was named something like Mission de Nuestra Senora de Carmel. Caramel, the candy, is pronounced caramelo in Italian and Spanish, where it refers to any bite-sized candy. But we English speakers don't like those little syllables in the middle of words so we dropped it. I think.
Mike

Yes, the town is named after Mt. Carmel, though rather obliquely. The name of the mission there is Mission San Carlos Borromeos del Rio Carmelo (it's actually the river that's named after Mt. Carmel, the mission after the river, and the town after the mission). With a moniker like that, however, it's little wonder that most folks hereabouts just refer to it as "Carmel Mission."

BTW, technically, the name of the town is "The Village of Carmel-by-the-Sea," and the mayor that pre-dated Clint Eastwoon used to insist on calling it by its full name whenever she referred to it, which got very old, very quickly. She was also, I believe, responsible for the infamous ice cream and high heels issue. No wonder old Clint got elected!

Redwolf

bdatki · Post by **bdatki** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:21 pm

I moved to the Greater Boston area from Virginia as a child. I had great trouble prounouncing Worcester (I thought it was War-chester, not Woostah). People said that things were "mayan" instead of mine. Idears, Asiar instead of Idea and Asia.

Grannymouse · Post by **Grannymouse** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:04 pm

Growing up in IL we learned to pronouce it App-A-Lea-chan(long A) but when I moved to TN - everything was App-a-latchan. Now I live in TX and I'm afraid to pronouce it at all. It's the same with some of them thar other words you been talkin about.