Is this for real?

paddler · Post by **paddler** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:30 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Chris-Wilkes-Irish- ... dZViewItem

It seems kind of strange that someone would have an (8-key?) Wilkes for sale and not have a whole lot more information about it than this.

If it is what it says it is, I suspect it will sell for just a wee bit more than the current bid of $200!

Berti66 · Post by **Berti66** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:33 am

yeah, dream on...........

but if it does...........the lucky bidder.......though I don't believe so.
will be interesting to see now that you have posted on chiff, how much it will go for.

berti

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:44 am

Let's gamble!

I vote for $5000 final price. Who bids more?

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:08 am

Gabriel wrote:Let's gamble!

I vote for $5000 final price. Who bids more?

I don't know, it doesn't have a serial number...

planxtydt · Post by **planxtydt** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:09 am

Didn't this appear on ebay some months back and there was some debate on the "Wilkes, Worcester" side of things. or am i mistaken?

crookedtune · Post by **crookedtune** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:33 am

Well, the seller has no eBay history, which leads me to believe he/she is wishing to remain anonymous. It's probably a Chiffer.

As far as predicting a selling price, I'm not sure I like that idea. We're not able to see or try the flute, and speculating about it's value might skew someone's auction (for better or for worse). Best to wait and see what happens, IMO.

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:16 am

Tintin, maybe you and Graham and Tim are up for a little road trip?

Doug_Tipple · Post by **Doug_Tipple** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:36 am

Cathy Wilde wrote:Tintin, maybe you and Graham and Tim are up for a little road trip?

Yes, you would definately need to see this flute in person before bidding at high value to a ebay seller with a zero rating/no selling history on ebay. It sure would be nice to have good photos of the pieces, as you can hardly see the flute in the current posted photo. I think that it may be possible to bid on the auction with the understanding that if you won the auction, the transaction would be finalized in person. The seller describes the embouchure hole as perfectly round and flat. I am guessing that he actually means oval, although I couldn't tell for sure by looking at the photo.

pandscarr · Post by **pandscarr** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:44 am

Hmmm... the description sounds very very similar to the fully keyed Wilkes that I bought last summer.

And it's got the same big yellow case...

I would be surprised if this is a genuine sale.

edit:

I've reported this to ebay as copied pictures and text. The picture is one of the ones that was used for the Wilkes I purchased.

I'm really alarmed that it's had so many bids and would advise people not to bid unless the seller can prove it's a legitimate sale.

Pamela

tin tin · Post by **tin tin** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:53 am

Cathy Wilde wrote:Tintin, maybe you and Graham and Tim are up for a little road trip?

My flute inspector lab coat is at the cleaner's at the moment...

dow · Post by **dow** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:06 pm

pandscarr wrote:Hmmm... the description sounds very very similar to the fully keyed Wilkes that I bought last summer.

And it's got the same big yellow case...

I would be surprised if this is a genuine sale.

edit:

I've reported this to ebay as copied pictures and text. The picture is one of the ones that was used for the Wilkes I purchased.

I'm really alarmed that it's had so many bids and would advise people not to bid unless the seller can prove it's a legitimate sale.

Pamela

I thought that picture looked familiar...

paddler · Post by **paddler** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:16 pm

I contacted the seller. They replied from the following email address:

Joseph & Marius D. <cucuveaua75@yahoo.com>

They said they were in the UK temporarily and were dealing from there. They also sent me the following three pictures which I have put on the web for you to view. Were these also used in a previous sale?:

http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~walpole/tmp/wilkes1.JPG

http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~walpole/tmp/wilkes2.JPG

http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~walpole/tmp/wilkes3.JPG

Jon

cocusflute · Post by **cocusflute** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:23 pm

Joseph & Marius D. ?
Selling from a Kentucky EBay location but dealing from the UK?
Zero feedback rating?
My sh*t detector is reading off the scale.

cocusflute · Post by **cocusflute** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:24 pm

Sorry - double post.

pandscarr · Post by **pandscarr** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:25 pm

Yes, I already have copies of those three pictures. They were posted on the original ebay listing last July. That listing is no longer available to view, as it's over 90 days old.

It's also worth pointing out that the paypal guarantee is extremely small when buying from sellers with less than 25 feedback.

Beware - or let the buyer establish his bona fides.

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Beware!

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Nuh-uh

Sorry - double post.