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buddhu wrote: Anyone remember the movie Killer Klowns from Outer Space?
Yes! I came into this thread just to post about it... damn you.
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Clowns are to the jester tradition as Wonder is to bread.
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I encounter a lot of clowns everyday. :D
The'yre usually busy either tailgating me or cutting me off, or making a right hand turn from the left hand lane in front of me, behind the wheel of something like this.[/url]
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Dale wrote:
Brian Lee wrote:...which is why I've always preferred mimes. :thumbsup:
Yeah. That's another one. Nobody likes mimes. Nobody. I always had to fight the fantasy of, you know, making one talk.
Like stabbing one. You can't gesticulate "Ow, you sonofab*tch". I fight the fantasy, too.
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Terry Prachett's Diskworld books had a few things to say about clowns.

Wyrd Sisters was one: Men at Arms was another.

Basically, Mr P agrees with you.

I dislike clowns, and furthermore feel there is a racial element to a clown's makeup.
The red hair, the pale face, the red nose, the small eyes and the big smile. European subcategory of Irish/Scottish/Cornish/Breton, or "Celtic" for short. People are being taught to laugh at a particular racial group. Not so nice. And Mr Whiteface is, of course, the AngloSaxon "Normal" who is not funny. He is the straight man.
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Heyokas are cool, though.

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Innocent Bystander wrote:Terry Prachett's Diskworld books had a few things to say about clowns.

Wyrd Sisters was one: Men at Arms was another.

Basically, Mr P agrees with you.

I dislike clowns, and furthermore feel there is a racial element to a clown's makeup.
The red hair, the pale face, the red nose, the small eyes and the big smile. European subcategory of Irish/Scottish/Cornish/Breton, or "Celtic" for short. People are being taught to laugh at a particular racial group. Not so nice. And Mr Whiteface is, of course, the AngloSaxon "Normal" who is not funny. He is the straight man.
I suppose one can read racism in just about anything.
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Arguably, though, the shoe does fit. Why red hair - and the rest - as the traditional standard, after all??

Although that big red smear around the mouth has always been weird and inexplicable to me. What does it signify? Nothing I can tell.

We just have to face it, everyone: circus-type clowns are not intrinsically funny based on appearance. We're just taught that.

Sometimes their acts are funny.
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Innocent Bystander wrote:
I dislike clowns, and furthermore feel there is a racial element to a clown's makeup.
The red hair, the pale face, the red nose, the small eyes and the big smile. European subcategory of Irish/Scottish/Cornish/Breton, or "Celtic" for short. People are being taught to laugh at a particular racial group. Not so nice. And Mr Whiteface is, of course, the AngloSaxon "Normal" who is not funny. He is the straight man.
That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard IB! But maybe it's just that I'm not used to being part of an ethnic category (other than female) that is being stereotyped. As person of Celtic heritage I don't especially feel mocked by clowns.
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Well, I always liked the way a whole bunch of circus clowns could climb into a Crosley.

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Flyingcursor wrote:
Innocent Bystander wrote:Terry Prachett's Diskworld books had a few things to say about clowns.

Wyrd Sisters was one: Men at Arms was another.

Basically, Mr P agrees with you.

I dislike clowns, and furthermore feel there is a racial element to a clown's makeup.
The red hair, the pale face, the red nose, the small eyes and the big smile. European subcategory of Irish/Scottish/Cornish/Breton, or "Celtic" for short. People are being taught to laugh at a particular racial group. Not so nice. And Mr Whiteface is, of course, the AngloSaxon "Normal" who is not funny. He is the straight man.
I suppose one can read racism in just about anything.
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Depends the color of the clown's makeup?

Either way... curly wig, exaggerated lips, bulky suit & tie, white gloves...
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But isnt the classic clown costume a derivation of the Italian "Comedia Dell'Arte?"
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CHasR wrote:But isnt the classic clown costume a derivation of the Italian "Comedia Dell'Arte?"
The vestments, perhaps. Here's Trivelino, a variant of Arlecchino (or Harlequin):

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By the way:

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Ronald's gotta lose the 'do. It is so 80s. He should sport a mullet. Now that would be funny.
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Dale wrote:
cowtime wrote:I never liked or disliked them- except this one- and I did like to watch Emmit Kelly Jr. on tv when I was a kid. My grandmother had a doll like this one- it use to have the hat too- and now I have it in my bedroom.

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I loathed all clowns except Emmit Kelly, Jr., who I was able to tolerate.
I liked Emmett Kelly, too. But there were two of them--father and son. The son, Emmett Kelly, Jr., copied his dad's act, estranging the two.

He wasn't the irritating sort of clown. According to Wikipedia, "Weary Willie" was modeled on a Depression-era tramp, which would have been a familiar figure to people at that time. His acts entertained me because they tried to do the impossible or improbable. Wikipedia mentions two of them -- sweeping up a circle of light from a circus spotlight with a big broom and trying to crack a peanut with a sledgehammer. (The origin of Sledgeomatic?)

There is a website linked down at the bottom, Clown Ministry, that has a nice bio of Emmett Kelly. I didn't link it here to save you the popups. Grrr. Maybe you can block them.

It also explains the three types of clowns. (Ooooh! Annoying!)
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