What's wrong with the Greek Heroes? I will tell you, nothing

Caroluna · Post by **Caroluna** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:03 pm

MTGuru wrote:The Greek Gyros are mighty tasty.

PallasAthena · Post by **PallasAthena** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:11 pm

The Iliad was the first serious work of litterature I read. I was 12. Something MUST have been wrong with me...and probably still is.

I think that leaves me with a certain affection for heros of the ancient world.

That aside, what makes Greek mythology so appealing is that they are all imperfect, even the Gods. I think one of my favorite portrayals of any divinity of all time is the scene in The Iliad when Zues essentially says "Alright, Hera, I'll let you destroy Troy if you don't intefere when I want to destroy a city."

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:55 pm

PallasAthena wrote:The Iliad was the first serious work of litterature I read. I was 12. Something MUST have been wrong with me...and probably still is.

I think that leaves me with a certain affection for heros of the ancient world.

That aside, what makes Greek mythology so appealing is that they are all imperfect, even the Gods. I think one of my favorite portrayals of any divinity of all time is the scene in The Iliad when Zues essentially says "Alright, Hera, I'll let you destroy Troy if you don't intefere when I want to destroy a city."

Yeah. Pretty cool.

I guess I got carried away. I was popping them off as fast as I could think of them. Two Astartes? Hmmm. I've always had a fascination with the whole fertility godess thing.

What about some of the lesser known heros like Admetus who convinced his wife to die in his place yet bitched about it afterward?

Wormdiet · Post by **Wormdiet** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:52 pm

Rwawr!

Thor stomp Greek pansies.

I never got into the Greek myths precisely because the Gods were very normal. But usually fairly jerkish and immature. I never had the sense of weirdness and wonder that I got from other literatures.

Of all myths, those in the Mabinogion appealed to me most as a kid.

feadogin · Post by **feadogin** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:44 pm

Wormdiet wrote:Rwawr!

Thor stomp Greek pansies.

I never got into the Greek myths precisely because the Gods were very normal. But usually fairly jerkish and immature. I never had the sense of weirdness and wonder that I got from other literatures.

Of all myths, those in the Mabinogion appealed to me most as a kid.

Me too, those were my favorites. I mostly liked all the monsters in Greek myths, not the heroes.

J.

PallasAthena · Post by **PallasAthena** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:57 pm

Somehow Zeus and Hera remind me of the mythological equivelent of Bill and Hillary. Don't ask; I don't know.

lordofthestrings · Post by **lordofthestrings** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:12 pm

I read this post topic for a while, and I still don't get it... No offense to you, TCB. Are you asking what people think is wrong with greek heroes? I don't think there's anything arong with them, but I also don't know what I'm looking for as something to be 'wrong'. I dunno... spending hours practicing for my finals has really fried my brain.

Slan

chas · Post by **chas** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:22 am

feadogin wrote:
Me too, those were my favorites. I mostly liked all the monsters in Greek myths, not the heroes.

J.

I'm reading a book of myths to my six-year-old. She has a bookmark on the page with the chimera suckling all her offspring.

chrisoff · Post by **chrisoff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:28 am

Heroes doesn't air in Greece:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29

CHasR · Post by **CHasR** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:08 am

chrisoff wrote:Heroes doesn't air in Greece:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29

poor Greeks...they;er missing a good one!
I perdict, chrisoff ,(not having access to the ginormous NBC site which takes days to download...) that:

*Mrs Petrelli, elecrtic-girl and Sylar will become the new triumverate of evil

*we havent seen the last of Adam, OR Nathan, OR Nikki/Jessica

*Maya will become the 'weapon-of choice' for the company

AND: (out on a limb, but:)

*Clare will get pregnant from the flying boy, leave the Bennet household and move in with her trailer-park-flamethrowing natural mom

chrisoff · Post by **chrisoff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:13 am

CHasR wrote:
chrisoff wrote:Heroes doesn't air in Greece:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29

poor Greeks...they;er missing a good one!
I perdict, chrisoff ,(not having access to the ginormous NBC site which takes days to download...) that:

*Mrs Petrelli, elecrtic-girl and Sylar will become the new triumverate of evil

*we havent seen the last of Adam, OR Nathan, OR Nikki/Jessica

*Maya will become the 'weapon-of choice' for the company

AND: (out on a limb, but:)

*Clare will get pregnant from the flying boy, leave the Bennet household and move in with her trailer-park-flamethrowing natural mom

Hmm, with regards to Nathan he's already been healed with Adam's blood but is that a one time thing? Or do the effects last longer? He was only hit in the chest, not the head, so if he can still heal then there's definitely scope to bring him back.

Adam is screwed. Unless Hiro has a pang of guilt or someone asks Molly to find him.

Nikki will definitely be back. The old exploding building while she's still inside trick doesn't fool me.

CHasR · Post by **CHasR** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:22 am

chrisoff wrote:Hmm, with regards to Nathan he's already been healed with Adam's blood but is that a one time thing? Or do the effects last longer? He was only hit in the chest, not the head, so if he can still heal then there's definitely scope to bring him back..

Well there's one reason for season #3!
I have a sneaky feeling Hiro's dad and/or the Hatian is mixed up in Nathan's (attempted?) assination

chrisoff wrote: Adam is screwed. Unless Hiro has a pang of guilt or someone asks Molly to find him...

Hiro does need to grow a pair sometimes, dosent he?

I keep remembering that 'Bad-@ss' Hiro that appeared to Peter in the subway during the 'save the cheerleader phase'... it's a long, slow process for his character development, yes?

chrisoff wrote: Nikki will definitely be back. The old exploding building while she's still inside trick doesn't fool me.

yeah Im with you there too, she's got too many unresolved issues to be written out of the script..like her relationship with Nathan for a start,

plus, there's a writer's strike on just now also... this may have more of an effect on the plot...tha't why NBC's asking viewers to design the newest hero

gtg

jbarter · Post by **jbarter** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:49 am

jim stone wrote:Odysseus was a wus.

If he'd taken his wife with him she woulda made him ask for directions.

djm · Post by **djm** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:21 am

CHasR wrote:plus, there's a writer's strike on just now also... this may have more of an effect on the plot...tha't why NBC's asking viewers to design the newest hero

Not hard to figure out. Season 2 has been dragging along aimlessly, and suddenly in the last two episodes everything goes berserk, with lots of cliff-hangers and unresolved character "terminations". Note that they are saying this is the end of the "Fall Season" and not of Season 2 completely. I guess everyone has their fingers crossed.

djm

chrisoff · Post by **chrisoff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:44 am

djm wrote:Note that they are saying this is the end of the "Fall Season" and not of Season 2 completely. I guess everyone has their fingers crossed.

Yeah but at the end of the last episode is said end of chapter #2 then had the chapter #3: Villains header before Sylar's scene. Which would indicate that the season has finished.