What's wrong with the Greek Heroes? I will tell you, nothing

The_Celtic_Bard · Post by **The_Celtic_Bard** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:03 am

Care take the opposition on that anyone?
Or defend my view?
Some of you may play the devil's advocate but that is not very helpful.

djm · Post by **djm** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:24 am

Your title/leading line is a bit vague. What is it about "Greek heroes" you wish to support? Is it their predilection for young boys, or is it for doing it "Greek style"?

djm

mutepointe · Post by **mutepointe** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:54 am

burn.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:27 am

Well, based on the existing statuary, I object to their lack of irises and pupils.

TheSpoonMan · Post by **TheSpoonMan** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:18 am

because I believe in the depravity of man I conclude there is something wrong with greek heroes somewhere

becuase I believe in an all-sustaining God I also conclude that there is also soemthing good about greek heroes somewhere

in any case pies are tasty?

Stan · Post by **Stan** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:02 pm

On the other hand, Ms. Emily, existing statuary shows that
six-pack abs were in vogue several thousand years ago.

WyoBadger · Post by **WyoBadger** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:10 pm

They didn't play tin whistle.

On the other hand, they didn't bring sousaphones or egg shakers to sessions, either.

T

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:15 pm

The Greek heros and heroines are the gateway to the our past. They are a multi-millenia old mirror into ourselves.

They are vain, proud, lustful, weak and strong. They love and they hate.

The most wonderful scene in the Illiad is when Hector meets his wife on the walls of besieged Troy. Hector's baby son, Astyanax, sees Hector with his horse hair plumed helmet and crys in fright causing Hector to remove the helmet and sooth the crying babe. THAT is the epitome of the pathos. Because Hector knows he must face Achilles and that he will die and with his death the child in his arms, whom he loves as most parents love their children, and his trusting wife, Andromache, will also die. And he knows that a mighty, and once proud nation will abruptly end. Yet, he retains a hope in the gods and himself that maybe he will prevail. In either case the path is inexorably set.

Of course Andromache and Astyanax didn't die but that's beside the point.

Then there's Helen. My favorite. The ultimate wife, the ultimate harlot, the ultimate object of love, lust and power. She's the girl next door and the lady of the night.
She's Astarte, Astoreth, Astarte, Isis, Hathor, Aphrodite, Freyja, Brigit, Lilith, Jezebel and Eve in one unimaginable persona. She is the womb from which we all emerge and many strive to reenter. She is the harvest of the fields and the storm that destroys the crops. She is the harsh winter and the cool spring.

I say there's nothing wrong with the Greek Heros. They RAWK!!!!!

djm · Post by **djm** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:36 pm

Flyingcursor wrote:She's Astarte, Astoreth, Astarte, Isis, Hathor, Aphrodite, Freyja, Brigit, Lilith, Jezebel and Eve in one unimaginable persona.

Sorry, FC, you have two Astarte's in there, which disqualifies the remainder of your statement. Thanks for playing.

We'll be back with our next contestant after this message from our sponsor.

djm

sbfluter · Post by **sbfluter** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:43 pm

Anybody who names her kid Astyanax is cruel.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:48 pm

I've always wanted a winged horse. I'd prefer it have pupils, but I'm not particular about that point.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:02 pm

Odysseus was a wus.

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:19 pm

What's with Iolaus and his uncle Heracles?

The_Celtic_Bard · Post by **The_Celtic_Bard** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:21 am

sbfluter wrote:Anybody who names her kid Astyanax is cruel.

Hey if you were name Euryphateus or Clytemnestra what wouldn't you name your kid.

This topic of mine didn't exactly go the way I wanted but what are you going to do?

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:20 pm

The Greek Gyros are mighty tasty.