Almond Oil or Bore Oil?

[cocusflute]

Casey's last post was boring and tedious.

Besides I use fish oil. Never mind why.

[Ronbo]

Borium and Tedium come right after the element Practicium.

[crookedtune]

Casey's last post was boring and tedious.

Casey does bore quite well, but he doesn't hold the record for tedious.

[jemtheflute]

Besides I use fish oil. Never mind why.

I knew there was something "fishy" about Cocusflute!

So are his flutes stinkers rather than stonkers?

[Tony McGinley]

Besides I use fish oil. Never mind why.

I knew there was something "fishy" about Cocusflute!

So are his flutes stinkers rather than stonkers?

Fishy Fluters






I am generally sceptical about flute makers,
I think they actually don't make flutes at all but
rather catch them in the sea!!!

Thats probably why fish oil is good for them.


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[talasiga]

Found this very informative piece:

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/HandyHints/oilingbore.htm

Here is an extract from that site:

It is not economically viable ( as far as I know! ) to
extract natural oils from wood - it would destroy the wood, which defeats
the object of cutting the tree down in the first place - so a substitute must
be found, and ideally the oil must closely match the properties of the
natural oil.


Vegetable oils are the closest match, but not all such oils are suitable.
Some have certain properties that render them useless for our purposes.

Linseed oil is one such example. It is a ‘drying oil’ - which means that if
you were to place a drop on a sheet of glass and leave it for a time it
would harden into a resinous blob. Imagine that on the bore of your
instrument!
Over the years the layers would build up, closing up the diameter of the
bore and blocking the pores of the wood.
I cannot stress this strongly enough - Linseed oil MUST NOT be used.
Walnut oil too is a drying oil.

There are two oils in common use for our purposes: Groundnut ( or
peanut ) oil and Sweet Almond oil.

........
You can also buy Bore Oil from most music stores - but these can often
be mineral based oils, which are nowhere near as good for the wood.
Mineral oils will have a warning on the bottle saying ‘do not ingest’! Also,
you may not know what additives commercial bore oils contain.

.........

There has been some debate as to the risk of such oils going rancid. In
theory all vegetable based oils will break down over time - but this
assumes a quantity of oil left standing for a considerable amount of time.
I have never found this to be a problem once the oil is applied to the
bore - but you'd be well advised to ensure you use fresh oil in the first
place. Choosing an oil like groundnut makes good sense in that it's a
culinary oil...you can use it in the kitchen, thus ensuring a regular
turnover of fresh oil.

I find this agreable and consistent with what I have been saying in many
oily threads, particularly the stuff about almond oil. In the past I have
also given a fats theory explanantion as to why almond oil is especially
good, which is the same reason why olive is good except that olive has
too many other things that makes it a bit thickish and scented. I am not
going to repeat myself here.

Thanks for the great link Mr Tony of Dingle.

[Stuporman]

Groundnut, or peanut oil is an allergen to many people, so care must be taken to warn anyone who may be using the flute.

[Stuporman]

http://www.naylors-woodwind-repair.com/
Long but interesting- Go to Publications - "Grenadilla Wood, Environmental Effects, and Organic Bore Oil."

[Rob Sharer]

I'm planning to stick with raw linseed oil, as recommended by Mr. Olwell. It's also not without culinary uses - stick a teaspoonful in a smoothie! Keeps you regular. Cheers,

Rob

[mahanpots]

I'll stick with flax seed, thanks.

Michael

[cocusflute]

FYI:

Flax (also known as Common Flax or Linseed) is a member of the genus Linum in the family Linaceae. Flax seeds produce a vegetable oil known as flaxseed or linseed oil....

[mahanpots]

If you google "flaxseed oil", you get a bunch of vitamin/supplement sites.

If you goodle "linseed oil", you get more paint/wood preserving sites.

Anyone use "flaxseed oil" or "linseed oil" that is made for human consumption?

Athletes are naturally interested in ALA (and linseed oil), believing that ingestion of the compound(s) might be an effective way to control post-workout soreness and stiffness and therefore shorten between-workout recovery time.

Linseed oil is a yellowish drying oil derived from the dried ripe seeds of the flax plant where flaxseed is obtained (Linum usitatissimum, Linaceae). It is obtained by pressing, followed by an optional stage of solvent extraction. Cold-pressed oil obtained without solvent extraction is marketed as flaxseed oil. It is suitable for human consumption (though not recommended for cooking) and is used as a nutritional supplement which is high in omega-3 fatty acids, especially alpha linolenic acid, similar to those found in fish such as salmon.

Michael

[Dana]

Yes, I use raw flaxseed oil from the health food store. It needs to be refrigerated, since it can go rancid, although I've never noticed a rancid smell or taste on my instruments.

You can also drink the stuff, it's loaded with omega-3 fatty acids.

Dana

[Rob Sharer]

Back in college, I had an acquaintance called Lynn, a fellow who was a room-mate of another fellow I used to knock around with. One day while visiting the house they shared, I heard Lynn's voice call out from the next room, "Hey, Rob! Catch!" I wheeled around and caught the hurled object, which turned out to be a throw pillow-sized bag of some sort of dried vegetable matter. Upon closer inspection, it seemed to be a kind of dried herb with a pleasant oregano odor, slightly redolent of skunk. I had seen the gentlemen in question in the company of this herb before, but never in the copious quantity I was now confronted with. To add to my amazement, I was shown a remarkable collection of seeds, lovely little pearly green baubles, also conspicuous by their abundance. Wow.

Anyhow, if anyone is looking for Lynn-seed oil, those guys are probably still around somewhere. Cheers,

Rob

[Doug_Tipple]

Yes, I use raw flaxseed oil from the health food store. It needs to be refrigerated, since it can go rancid, although I've never noticed a rancid smell or taste on my instruments.

You can also drink the stuff, it's loaded with omega-3 fatty acids.

Dana

Flax seed oil is OK for women to drink, but men recently have been advised not to drink flax oil and to use ground flaxseed meal instead. I buy the flaxseeds and grind them myself. Evidently, the recommendation against flax oil for men has something to do with prostate health. Flaxseed oil and meal, as has been mentioned, needs to be refrigerated or else it degrades rapidly. I wouldn't think that it is the best oil to use on an instrument, unless, of course, you wanted to keep your flute in the refrigerator. No one has mentioned that yet.