i declare the irish flute to have a new name

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jemtheflute wrote:Pass. Call me boring, even recidivist. I like plain ol' flute. Can't think of anything better, and I think it meets all of Cubitt's criteria. Nicknames are fine when they work - that's the point, whether they're humourous, affectionate or derogatory. If they're forced and artificial, don't strike a natural chord, then they don't work. There are some mildly amusing suggestions here, but nothing that works; at least, not yet. I like word games, as most of you have realised/suffered by now, but inspiration ain't coming on this one.
What he said. Also, the fiddle/violin thing happened for actual historical linguistic reasons- fiddle's the english name, and violin's the Italian. No one said "hey, I dont' wanna call this a violin anymore!" :)
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i like "tube"

i keep my whistles and flutes all over my livingroom on flat safe surfaces. there are no kids in the house. then my brother was visiting and put them all in a vase. now, all the whistles, flutes, and recorders that i don't play are in the vase and all the instruments that i do play are right back all over the livingroom again. but at least it looks like i keep some instruments nice and neat.
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TheSpoonMan wrote:
jemtheflute wrote:Pass. Call me boring, even recidivist. I like plain ol' flute. Can't think of anything better, and I think it meets all of Cubitt's criteria. Nicknames are fine when they work - that's the point, whether they're humourous, affectionate or derogatory. If they're forced and artificial, don't strike a natural chord, then they don't work. There are some mildly amusing suggestions here, but nothing that works; at least, not yet. I like word games, as most of you have realised/suffered by now, but inspiration ain't coming on this one.
What he said. Also, the fiddle/violin thing happened for actual historical linguistic reasons- fiddle's the english name, and violin's the Italian. No one said "hey, I dont' wanna call this a violin anymore!" :)
i'm very much aware of that! does anybody know if flute's were called something different in middle english?
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Nothing substantially different I'm afraid.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med ... d=MED16436

Someone with real knowledge of Middle English might find something more useful than that, of course. In the same dictionary, "pipe" is already specific to the reeds and bellows type of pipes.
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By the way, I have noticed that some people here in Germany use the english word "flute" as opposed to german "Floete" to specify the simple system wooden variety, in the same manner as fiddlers a few centuries ago might have started to call their instrument "violino".

Doesn't help you anglo-saxons, of course.
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skh wrote:By the way, I have noticed that some people here in Germany use the english word "flute" as opposed to german "Floete" to specify the simple system wooden variety, in the same manner as fiddlers a few centuries ago might have started to call their instrument "violino".

Doesn't help you anglo-saxons, of course.
haha. so i guess i'll have to learn german and use the english word!

i'm not too happy with floute or flote.
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The old name (pre-Bach) for the transverse flute was the traverso.

That sounds way too snooty for Irish music though. Also, some people (like me) still use the term to refer specifically to the one-key Baroque flute.

I have a little high-F piccolo...I call it my ouchpfife. :lol:

I think, in general, "flute" works just fine.

If you like, you could term it a "session flute;" that would do a good job of associating it with traditional dance music.

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I played once at a fundraiser where my fully eight-keyed - and not cheap - blackwood flute was introduced by the M.C. as a "folk flute". Somewhat dismissively, too, I thought. Ignorant woman. If looks could maim, she would have left in a basket.
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Nanohedron wrote:I played once at a fundraiser where my fully eight-keyed - and not cheap - blackwood flute was introduced by the M.C. as a "folk flute". Somewhat dismissively, too, I thought. Ignorant woman. If looks could maim, she would have left in a basket.
haha, beethoven was totally folk, right?

going with "session flute", how bout "sesh?"
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Once when we were taking a break during a gig a fellow came up to me and said, "Nice clarinet playing...although I've never heard one sound quite like that before." So I said, "Well that's 'cus it's a flute." He rolled his eyes and said, "Look, I haven't had so much to drink that I don't know a clarinet when I see one. It's black with silver keys...clarinet!" "Well," says I "did you ever see a clarinet played from the side before?" Undaunted he said, "No I haven't. That must be how you get it to sound so unusual!" I took a deep breath and said, "Yup, not even Benny Goodman can play his clarinet from the side like that." The fellow wandered off probably satisfied that he had been clever enough to not let that clarinet player pull his leg.

So a flute by any other name is a clarinet.

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clark wrote:Once when we were taking a break during a gig a fellow came up to me and said, "Nice clarinet playing...although I've never heard one sound quite like that before." So I said, "Well that's 'cus it's a flute." He rolled his eyes and said, "Look, I haven't had so much to drink that I don't know a clarinet when I see one. It's black with silver keys...clarinet!" "Well," says I "did you ever see a clarinet played from the side before?" Undaunted he said, "No I haven't. That must be how you get it to sound so unusual!" I took a deep breath and said, "Yup, not even Benny Goodman can play his clarinet from the side like that." The fellow wandered off probably satisfied that he had been clever enough to not let that clarinet player pull his leg.

So a flute by any other name is a clarinet.

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haha, clarinet it is!
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clark wrote: So a flute by any other name is a clarinet.
Folk clarinet.
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