which type of flute is used in this song?
quena and shinobue
I found the Quena and the Shinobue very interesting.
Do you guys have an idea about where I could get them? Some trustable online store or something? Cause I don't think I will be able to find those easily here in Italy.
Thanks in advance,
Max.
Do you guys have an idea about where I could get them? Some trustable online store or something? Cause I don't think I will be able to find those easily here in Italy.
Thanks in advance,
Max.
I think I found what I was looking for, it's called Shakuhachi and it's a japanese flute, more info on http://www.shakuhachi.com/ ..
I think it sounds very good, I love it
But it's very expensive.
Max.
I think it sounds very good, I love it
But it's very expensive.
Max.
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It is also keyless and pentatonic.wastzzz wrote:I think I found what I was looking for, it's called Shakuhachi and it's a japanese flute, more info on http://www.shakuhachi.com/ ..
I think it sounds very good, I love it
But it's very expensive.
Max.
I did not listen to the clips close enough, but I have a feeling, this would not be the right flute.
I missed the name of the player and I did not listen closely enough to hear the key, but the quena is usually pitched high (G?). If the tune is in D it might not be a quena either.
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Why not? There are lots of Andean music aficionados here in Japan and many play very well with the whole ensemble (quena, zampogna, charango, drums, etc.). The only quena tutorial DVD that I have happens to be presented by a japanese musician.sbhikes wrote:
I kind of doubt that a Japanese flute player would play an Andean flute, though.
Following the same line of poor stereotyping someone could kind of doubt that an american living in Santa Barbara would play an "irish flute"
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Well, isn't it amazing how for example, Talasiga plays Indian ragas in the "irish flute". Simple system flutes were not made to play exclusively irish music.
And yes, you could play japanese music on a quena. FIY, the quena has a pentatonic scale, and lots of chinese and japanese music is pentatonic.
And yes, you could play japanese music on a quena. FIY, the quena has a pentatonic scale, and lots of chinese and japanese music is pentatonic.
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Hi Max, yes, that's a shakuhachi in the clip. A good inexpensive shak can be had from Perry Yung, if you buy one of his Earth models. He's a very helpful and nice guy, and he ships worldwide too, so email him and I'm sure he can help you get started. Here are some links for him:wastzzz wrote:I think I found what I was looking for, it's called Shakuhachi and it's a japanese flute, more info on http://www.shakuhachi.com/ ..
I think it sounds very good, I love it
But it's very expensive.
Max.
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I have played with several shakuhachi players over the years and while the tone holes are five in number its range exceeds that (just like a keyless simple system flute - like the Irish flute - has only six tone holes but gives heptatonic (7 note) scale). The shakuhachi is an instrument with a complex cross fingering and note bending tradition behind it and even in trad. Japanese music it is expected to play greater than pentatonic range.I.D.10-t wrote: ......
It is also keyless and pentatonic.
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And it does.
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how's that?greenspiderweb wrote:Hi Max, yes, that's a shakuhachi in the clip. A good inexpensive shak can be had from Perry Yung, if you buy one of his Earth models. He's a very helpful and nice guy, and he ships worldwide too, so email him and I'm sure he can help you get started. Here are some links for him:wastzzz wrote:I think I found what I was looking for, it's called Shakuhachi and it's a japanese flute, more info on http://www.shakuhachi.com/ ..
I think it sounds very good, I love it
But it's very expensive.
Max.
http://www.yungflutes.com
http://www.yungflutes.com/html_pages/sh ... _page.html
http://myworld.ebay.com/yungflutes/
if shakuhachi is pentatonic, how can i play those clips??
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A shak isn't limited to playing in the pentatonic scale, as Talasiga said, it's just easier if you're playing only pentatonic stuff, that's all. But, there are such things as diatonically tuned shaks, that have 6 or 7 holes too. That would make it easier to play Western type music.
It's also possible that he used a transverse bamboo flute for that piece, tuned diatonically. Hard to tell from just listening, at least for me. But, it does sound like a shak anyway.
It's also possible that he used a transverse bamboo flute for that piece, tuned diatonically. Hard to tell from just listening, at least for me. But, it does sound like a shak anyway.
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I didn't say it was limited to playing in the pentatonic scale at all.greenspiderweb wrote:A shak isn't limited to playing in the pentatonic scale, as Talasiga said, ......
I said it wasn't limited to a pentatonic range.
Here is a typical fingering for chromatic articulation on shakuhachi
(from notes given to me by a advanced shaku player with whom I was sharing some of my jazz raag compositions some years ago):
note: "meri " means with chin down;
first tone hole indicates thumbhole;
H means half hole
XXXXX middle C very meri
XXXXX C# meri
XXXXX D
XXXXH Eb meri
XXXXO E meri
XXXXO F
XXXHO F# meri
XXXOO G
XXHOO Ab meri
XXOXO Ab meri
XXOOO A
XHOOO Bb meri
XOOXX B meri
XOOXX C
Thats a very merry first octave isn't it?
Of course if you wish to be less merry you could just play stuff
in F pentatonic major/D pentatonic minor and related modes.
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