Cure for lip-numbing Oak?

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have 3 Oaks, a C, and 2 D's. I play the D's quite frequently while perusing the board, and in the past played them a lot, too. I have never encountered this problem. Perhaps I'm just fortunate?
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I have an Oak and an Acorn with the Oak fipple. I also have never had this problem.

I am wondering if there isn't some chemical, maybe a polishing compound used to get that high-gloss black plastic finish, that some people are sensitive to, and others (like me) are unaffected by it.

The only time a whistle has ever made my lips numb was when I first got my Susato low D...I banged my lips a good one on the fipple. Low whistles are dangerous!!! :smile:

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Dale,

I work at a music store that stocks a lot of whistles. Recently we got a batch of Oak D's that were recalled my the distributer because the plastic fipple tasted and smelled funny. Last week I got another shipment that I tried out personally.After One try at playing one , my lips got
completely numb and stayed that way for over an hour.IMHO , Oak has got some real problems with the composition of their plastic on the D's (the C's are OK , made of a different plastic) I wouldn't advise anyne to buy one until this problem is solved.Volitiles are leaking from the head and could be potentially dangerous.
( I would prefer that you did not use our name in this report, as we would
still like to be able to get the Oaks when the problem is corected.)
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This is scary.
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Post by mike.r »

Wy wips are perwanentwy wumb anyway.Oaks are my favorwit.:wink: Mike
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This fits in the "cheap whistle vs. high-end debate" :
Why spend on Cocobolo when you can get the same result with good ol' American poison Oak ? :grin:
It's true: I read it on Internet.
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Get some of Parks clear Shellac spray and spray the whistle after cleaning it. Shellac has been well know for it's ability to seal and it's a non-toxic alcohol thinable material. I use it on the Series II whistle for the frosted appearance (which requires heat)
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On 2002-10-30 07:37, Daniel_Bingamon wrote:
Get some of Parks clear Shellac spray and spray the whistle after cleaning it. Shellac has been well know for it's ability to seal and it's a non-toxic alcohol thinable material. I use it on the Series II whistle for the frosted appearance (which requires heat)
Or play Feadogs and Generations.
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I am so glad this was posted.

My new, supposedly non-poison one was just as bad as the earlier ones. I tried the cleaning technique that was mentioned and I still get an occasional taste. I'm not playing mine anymore. And I really like them.

I hope I haven't ingested some carcinogenic substance.

I have a Gen fipple whose tube was bent by my kids (I suspect it wasn't as accidental as they claim) and a Walton Irish Black Whistle whose A is slightly sharp. This gives me two fipples to put onto the shiny Oak tubes.
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On 2002-10-30 03:57, Zubivka wrote:
This fits in the "cheap whistle vs. high-end debate" :
Why spend on Cocobolo when you can get the same result with good ol' American poison Oak ? :grin:
That's priceless! :lol:
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The person with whom I've been corresponding at the at distributor assures me that, though there is an unsolved flavor problem, the manufacturer (in Ireland) says it's non toxic and non carcinogenic. She is confidant in this.

While I am trusting her at her word, I am a little uneasy that she won't/can't tell me exactly what the issue is. I suspect that the technical issues are beyond her usual area and she just isn't filled in. But still...
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I just want to signal my dissatisfaction...

I bought an oak D and C today- the D played so nice, I was really happy, but then my whole freaken mouth went numb. It was a a horrible feeling...

so you think I could return these whistles to the store I bought them? Or send them back to the oak people?
Its so sad because the D played so nice...
grrr
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I've never seen or heard an Oak.

What are they like?
Where do you get them?

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This is really, really bad!
I don't see why anyone would bother with mouth-numbing, poisonous whistles. Oak should really be ashamed for making and selling these, especially without recalling them after figuring out the problem. I can't believe they won't even fess up about what's causing these problems. If this were any other product it would be sure to end up in a class-action lawsuit.
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Atarango,

I'd take them to the shop if it's a small shop. They're more likely to actually send them back to the distributor and make an issue of it. If you got them at a place like Sam Ash, then I'd bet they'll just refund you and toss them in a corner. In that case I'd contact the distributor directly.
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On 2002-11-16 20:42, ChrisLaughlin wrote:
This is really, really bad!
If this were any other product it would be sure to end up in a class-action lawsuit.
Chris
It may still. I saved both mine in case my lips fall off someday, so we can all sue them together.
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