Sessions and the type of tunes you enjoy...

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If someone started this tune in a session, you would...

enjoy the tune
22
58%
be bored to death
4
11%
wonder what type of accordeon this is
0
No votes
think about the next tune you're going to play
1
3%
dislike it, because of the crapy, broken rhythm
3
8%
dislike it, because this guy seriously has to learn how to play the concertina
1
3%
dislike it, because this guy seriously has to learn how to play set dances
1
3%
dislike it, because you guys were having fun playing reels!
0
No votes
start a great discussion with your neighbor about what you guys did last week-end
2
5%
enjoy myself because I would noodle on the tune!
4
11%
 
Total votes: 38

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feadogin wrote:The Blue-Eyed Rascal, what a great name. In a session, I would enjoy listening to the tune as a break from the reels, but it's probably not the type of tune I would learn myself. I guess I have to choose the "What the heck, we're playing reels" option or the talking to your neighbor option.
Yeah, I'm sure what you say represents 90% of what most hardcore sessioners would say. I still don't know where I stand myself. It depends on the session, and the people you're playing with. Last night I spent about an hour working on a set of reels, and it was such a great feeling, you can't beat a reel for when you need to let energy out.
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Well, you got me there. It's not my child, it's not my child! ;-) By the way, you are going to show up in Catskills, right? I think it's time.
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I.D.10-t wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:I mean, it's not like that's all there'll be for the rest of the session thereafter.
It makes me wonder what a well rounded play list would include. The best D.J.s at dances that I have been to did not limit themselves to one style and were able to control the crowd with their music.
But you're comparing apples to oranges, here.

Putting aside the question of WHAT kind of session it is (and that counts), a session is a session and a performance is a performance, a session being a social occasion (and performance only by default). In the same vein, woe betide the performer(s) who are disengaged from their audience. A performer ought to read the audience if possible and play to the general vibe as it unfolds and, as you have noted, be good for inducing some mood swings, too. Thing is, some nights that's just not gonna happen no matter how good you are.

Edit: performing - actual performing, not sessioning - for the sake of providing incidental, ambient music is another thing, though, I think. There's little pressure to engage the audience so directly, although some sense of what's appropriate for the occasion is called for. Just my 2 cents. YYMV.

But to the idea of a well-rounded playlist at an ITM session: I guess it's not the sort of thing that ever concerned me in the sense of what one ought to do, since it's about the people in the thick of it, not the people listening at the periphery. Last night, for example, things morphed for a while into an exploration and dusting-off of tunes long-forgot, and at another point hornpipes got particularly extended play, which you don't come across too often here. It was lovely.

So far as local ITM sessions go (and I can only speak for those), some nights are reelier. Some nights are jiggier. Some nights are a big tossed salad. None are better than the other, IMO. It's all about the group dynamic, after all.

I can tell you that among those listeners who are really paying attention to a session (and there are familiar faces), there's a definite sense of curiosity as to how the session will unfold for that evening, 'cause it's a living thing on its own terms. That's part of the delight of the phenomenon, and it baffles me that some people just don't get that. Incidental listeners respond as the music grabs 'em. And that's okay.
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Nanohedron wrote: So far as local ITM sessions go (and I can only speak for those), some nights are reelier. Some nights are jiggier. Some nights are a big tossed salad. None are better than the other, IMO. It's all about the group dynamic, after all.

I can tell you that among those listeners who are really paying attention to a session (and there are familiar faces), there's a definite sense of curiosity as to how the session will unfold for that evening, 'cause it's a living thing on its own terms. That's part of the delight of the phenomenon, and it baffles me that some people just don't get that. Incidental listeners respond as the music grabs 'em. And that's okay.
Those are good points Nano. Our session, 99% standard ITM fare, had a distinct Scottish feel this past weekend since the local Scottish Highland games were going on and, apparently, all things Scottish were on some folk's minds. And you know what, it was fun and a nice change of pace. It was a smaller session this week anyway, very relaxed, and just about as good a session as we've had in ages.

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Azalin wrote:
feadogin wrote:The Blue-Eyed Rascal, what a great name. In a session, I would enjoy listening to the tune as a break from the reels, but it's probably not the type of tune I would learn myself. I guess I have to choose the "What the heck, we're playing reels" option or the talking to your neighbor option.
Yeah, I'm sure what you say represents 90% of what most hardcore sessioners would say. I still don't know where I stand myself. It depends on the session, and the people you're playing with. Last night I spent about an hour working on a set of reels, and it was such a great feeling, you can't beat a reel for when you need to let energy out.
Hereabouts, only a few play set dances in the broader sense, or study them. It's a bit of a specialty, and I suspect that's just as true elsewhere. Although just about everyone has The King of the Fairies, The Three Sea Captains, or St. Patrick's Day, that's par for the course and not the same thing as really digging into the set dance repertory. In any case, I only trot them out if the group seems amenable enough, and if there are enough who know a selection to play along.
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Jayhawk wrote:
Nanohedron wrote: So far as local ITM sessions go (and I can only speak for those), some nights are reelier. Some nights are jiggier. Some nights are a big tossed salad. None are better than the other, IMO. It's all about the group dynamic, after all.

I can tell you that among those listeners who are really paying attention to a session (and there are familiar faces), there's a definite sense of curiosity as to how the session will unfold for that evening, 'cause it's a living thing on its own terms. That's part of the delight of the phenomenon, and it baffles me that some people just don't get that. Incidental listeners respond as the music grabs 'em. And that's okay.
Those are good points Nano. Our session, 99% standard ITM fare, had a distinct Scottish feel this past weekend since the local Scottish Highland games were going on and, apparently, all things Scottish were on some folk's minds. And you know what, it was fun and a nice change of pace. It was a smaller session this week anyway, very relaxed, and just about as good a session as we've had in ages.

Eric
Yep. We've had nights where we pursued the Scottish repertory as best we knew how, sometimes for no other reason than just because. It's fun.

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Nanohedron wrote:Um...I'm really thinking this thread oughta be in the Trad Forum. I'm gonna move it. :)
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rh wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:Um...I'm really thinking this thread oughta be in the Trad Forum. I'm gonna move it. :)
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Aaaaargh! I fell asleep in the pub and woke up in the ITM forum. Oh the horror. :o
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Azalin wrote: Well, you got me there. It's not my child, it's not my child! ;-) By the way, you are going to show up in Catskills, right? I think it's time.
I would love to...unfortunately I'll be in Ireland then. I'll be in Cavan for the baby's christening in July.

Y'all have fun without me...someday I will get to go out and play again but these days I am stuck at home with the bb all the time.

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Azalin, I'm all for nice simple tunes -- one of my favorite tunes at the moment is a lovely simple little barndance I got from Gerry Harrington. I've trotted it out at our session once, and will probably do so again once I figure out a good tune to go with it. I'm a big fan of simple reels as well, and slides, and Newfoundland singles...

That said, when I've heard tunes like yours there at a session, my reaction is to smile vaguely and hope desperately that something very different gets played next. That sort of twiddly, concertina-y, hornpipe-y tune just doesn't grab me at all. (It's not your playing, either, I've had the exact same reaction to world-class concertina players.)
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Az, I thought it was a cute tune and nicely presented. If it was at our session, you would be smiled at, asked about it, and silently blessed for not boring us with a session-hogging 20 minutes of rushed, flat reels so overly ornamented yet curiously without style that no one would recognize them even if they were good tunes to start with.

(Then, despite my best efforts to the contrary, someone would probably play 20 minutes of ....)

(sigh)

All in all, I'd buy you a pint for it, especially if it was your first time out!
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Azalin wrote:Thanks for the name! Now I feel better knowing that this tune is on an "official list" :-)

Yeah Martin, the buttons can be distracting for sure, I think if I'd recorded further away from the machine it would have been a little bit better.
Yup. I'd suggest putting the mic about 5 feet away to start with, and see how much button noise that picks up. Is this played on your Edgeley?

There's been a tendancy of late for concertinas to be recorded with a mic at each end, so the tune jumps from one speaker to another. This is especially noticable on recordings of English concertinas, and personally I hate it, it's a distracting and annoying gimmick. That's not how a listener in the same room sitting a few feet away would hear the sound.
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eskin wrote:Here's a hornpipe I play on anglo concertina with one of the fiddlers in our session, but I don't have a name for it, was wondering if anyone knew its name and source.

http://members.cox.net/eskin4/whats_this_tune.mp3

Please excuse the rough recording, I accidentally hit save in my audio editor, forgetting that the compression was set to 48 kbit mono, and I lost high quality version, but it gets the general idea across well enough.
I liked this hornpipe, but have no idea what it's called unfortunately. I like the way it often moves in an unexpected direction - something reels rarely do to my mind, because they're too fast to do the jumps.

I used to have a link to a site with 250 hornpipes in abc format and thought it might show up there, but the site seems to be inactivated.
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colomon wrote:Azalin, I'm all for nice simple tunes -- one of my favorite tunes at the moment is a lovely simple little barndance I got from Gerry Harrington. I've trotted it out at our session once, and will probably do so again once I figure out a good tune to go with it. I'm a big fan of simple reels as well, and slides, and Newfoundland singles...

That said, when I've heard tunes like yours there at a session, my reaction is to smile vaguely and hope desperately that something very different gets played next. That sort of twiddly, concertina-y, hornpipe-y tune just doesn't grab me at all. (It's not your playing, either, I've had the exact same reaction to world-class concertina players.)
Some of the set dance melodies drive me right clean up the wall, myself, and I'd only make an effort to learn them if I made a mission for myself to play for step dancers. I haven't, so I'm free to pick and choose out of personal taste. Gotta love that. BTW, as I understand it eight of the 38 are modern additions to the list (of which the other 30 are supposedly old), and The Blue-Eyed Rascal is among those "newbies". Two more such are definitely composed for accordion, IMHO (The Story Teller and The Deep Green Pool, IIRC) both by their character and in that they drop well below the range of whistle, flute, or pipes. A fiddle or concertina could field those tunes, though. Banjo? Why not. Just imagine that and a sproingyhaired coloriffic dancer. It would be a perverse culmination of sorts. :twisted:
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Eskin's hornpipe is one of Paddy Fahey's although you need to work on the setting a bit to get closer to what Paddy plays, or the slightly straightened versions that the Kane sisters or Eileen O'Brien and Jimmy McGreevy play.

I think there's a setting or two on the ABC tune finder site written in G.

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