Who's got the Delrin Olwell?
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Who's got the Delrin Olwell?
If the owner of the Delrin Olwell is out there lurking, could you please contact me via email (I often can't access my pm's when using public computers)? It would be greatly appreciated.
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Loren
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Jim wrote
"He made one for Jessie K and then apparently swore
off working with Delrin."
I agree with Pat's assessment of the stuff. Its horrible, hard on the tools, and smells like a chemical plant when worked. Plastics in general are horrible. Much nicer to work in wood. Makes a much nicer flute, too.
Similarly (related to another thread) carbon fiber is another dead end for flute making, even though some modern flute makers are doing stuff with it. Its the kind of thing that lends itself to large tooling setups and investments, similar to injection molding. Thus until someone spends the money, it won't happen. I personally don't think that the simple system flute market is large enough to support this, or it would have been done already.
Wood has always been available. As one species becomes unavailable (such as my current situation with Mopane, thanks to the Asians discovering it as a substitute for jade, according to some African contacts of mine), others fill in. If I can't get exotics, I can still go out and get my own Pacific Coast species if I have to, using a firewood permit if required. Black Locust grows like a week in my neighborhood and makes a decent flute.
Thus I for one will never use plastic for the flutes I sell. I do want to make one out of clear acrylic someday, just to have one for some acoustical studies.
Casey
"He made one for Jessie K and then apparently swore
off working with Delrin."
I agree with Pat's assessment of the stuff. Its horrible, hard on the tools, and smells like a chemical plant when worked. Plastics in general are horrible. Much nicer to work in wood. Makes a much nicer flute, too.
Similarly (related to another thread) carbon fiber is another dead end for flute making, even though some modern flute makers are doing stuff with it. Its the kind of thing that lends itself to large tooling setups and investments, similar to injection molding. Thus until someone spends the money, it won't happen. I personally don't think that the simple system flute market is large enough to support this, or it would have been done already.
Wood has always been available. As one species becomes unavailable (such as my current situation with Mopane, thanks to the Asians discovering it as a substitute for jade, according to some African contacts of mine), others fill in. If I can't get exotics, I can still go out and get my own Pacific Coast species if I have to, using a firewood permit if required. Black Locust grows like a week in my neighborhood and makes a decent flute.
Thus I for one will never use plastic for the flutes I sell. I do want to make one out of clear acrylic someday, just to have one for some acoustical studies.
Casey
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I have to agree with Casey that working with plastics is problematic. I haven't worked with delrin, but pvc, although it varies quite a bit from piece to piece, isn't very easy to machine. Also, when I cut it with a miter saw or turn it with a lathe, I use a mask with a chemical filter, as vinyl chloride gas is given off as the material is cut into. However, I do think that pvc and delrin flutes are good sounding flutes and have their place alongside wooden and metal flutes.
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Make a new plan, Stan
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Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
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Just drop off the key, Lee
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Did he? For some reason I didn't think he ended up as the owner, but I could easily be mistaken. Geeze, I haven't spoken with Chris for a long time, good reason to write to him and see how he's doing.AaronMalcomb wrote:Didn't young Mr. Laughlin take it to Africa?
Thanks for the lead AM, I'll try to follow-up on that. If anyone else has any info on the whereabouts of this particular flute, I'd be interested in hearing from you.
Loen
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Make a new plan, Stan
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Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free - Location: Loren has left the building.
Dude, I had to sell the "r" - times have been tough - but I will be looking to buy a used "r" in the near future, to replace the one I sold, if you happen to know of anyone.....Jayhawk wrote:Loren - I thought Chris got a hold of a Seery for his African walkabout, but maybe Jim is right.
Have you PM'd Jessie? She drops by from time to time.
BTW - sorry you lost the "r" in your name and hope you find it soon.
Eric
I was thinking the same thing, that Chris ended up with a Seery for his travels. I seemed to remember he bought a Delrin Ward which he sold in order to get the Seery. Well, that was my recollection anyway, but things do get fuzzy over time.
Contacting Jessie is not an option for me, so I'll have to rely on information from others.
Loren
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Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
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Jayhawk wrote:Loren - I recall Chris disliking the Ward and wanting a Seery as well. Perhaps Jim is simply trying to cover up the fact that HE has the delrin Olwell and doesn't want to admit it.
Eric
In this case I think we can give Jim a break, since it was Aaron who suggested that Chris might have it.
Loren
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Well, as it happens, Chris is my nephew. Not that I can shed any light on anything, as I haven't seen him in several years. I do talk with his Mom from time to time, and I can confirm that he's doing well, and still in Africa. Maybe someday I'll hear him play the flute!
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Make a new plan, Stan
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Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free - Location: Loren has left the building.
Cool, it's great to hear that Chris is doing well, he's a truly nice fellow. And from what I can gather, he's out trying to do some good in the world, which is all too rare these days.crookedtune wrote:Well, as it happens, Chris is my nephew. Not that I can shed any light on anything, as I haven't seen him in several years. I do talk with his Mom from time to time, and I can confirm that he's doing well, and still in Africa. Maybe someday I'll hear him play the flute!
Loren
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"Black Locust grows like a week in my neighborhood and makes a decent flute."
I assume you meant weed. I have a lot of the stuff in my yard (8 acres of woods) . we just trimed several huge limbs. Wish I could mail it to you but alas don't think that would work. I may put it on the lathe myself. Worse I can do is make a mess. Don't say it, I know enough not to risk my precious fingers.
I assume you meant weed. I have a lot of the stuff in my yard (8 acres of woods) . we just trimed several huge limbs. Wish I could mail it to you but alas don't think that would work. I may put it on the lathe myself. Worse I can do is make a mess. Don't say it, I know enough not to risk my precious fingers.