Old pipes for sale!!

irishpiper · Post by **irishpiper** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:19 am

Rory..I don't know what pipermakers you've consulted with, but if you haven't talked to Brad Angus yet , then you might want to consider it before you donate the pipes to museum. Brad Angus does some amazing restoration work, but if the pipes are " butchered" beyond repair like you say; then I agree with Patrick and a museum would be a great final resting place for them.

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:56 am

the pipes were given to Alain Froment with the view to hopefully being fully restored to playing condition.At first he was very excited about them ,but on further investagation he said the chanter had been altered too much. His guess was that someone had tried too raise them in pitch and then at a later stage bring them back down again.
It was going to work out expensive to have Alain to do further work on them so the owner took them back

The drones and regulators are in orginal condition but are quite worn and some mounts are missing,
It was Alain who came up with the date of manufacture ,but due to the key shape he could not reliable say who made them.
Due to the ware they must have been played quite alot when they were playing .

RORY

chanterdan · Post by **chanterdan** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:20 am

keys ,and springs can be replaced,fixed with new boxwood mounts,new bag n repair the leather on the bellows, and donot see why the drones wouldn't work. .lots of pipers have extra chanters laying around.its like fixing up an old muscle car!i would make a decent offer if i had the scratch!would trade i nice guitar!

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:22 am

Heres more photos

As you can see there is a key missing on the bari reg

RORY

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:42 am

Is there anything wrong with the chanter that you can tell? Also, what is the owner asking for it?

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:22 am

The owner of the pipes ,a Mr Gerry Fitzgibbon who lives in Limerick has said he will take 1200 euros for the lot as they are !!

RORY

BzzzzT · Post by **BzzzzT** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:05 am

good price

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:06 am

rorybbellows wrote:The owner of the pipes ,a Mr Gerry Fitzgibbon who lives in Limerick has said he will take 1200 euros for the lot as they are !!

RORY

Has it yet been established who the maker is? I have half a mind to nab this set to study and maintain it (such as it is... but cleaned up a bit), until such time as I decide to donate it to a museum or NPU or whomever.

All I need to do now is stea... er, find 1,200 euros somewhere.

tommykleen · Post by **tommykleen** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:04 pm

Joe! Good to see you are ok!

(Florida really got a horrible storm yesterday...many lives lost, for those not reading the headlines).

t

Jeff Cullen · Post by **Jeff Cullen** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:49 pm

Rory,
I've sent you a PM, but I've had no response....is the set still being offered?
Thanks,
Jeff

The Sporting Pitchfork · Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:59 pm

So the pipes probably COULD be restored to playing condition...It would probably just cost a lot of money to get the work done...In the end, if somebody did decide to restore them with the intent of playing them, I imagine that a new chanter would likely have to be made for the set. Looks intriguing...Could be a fun fixer-upper project (mind you, whoever butchered the set in the first place was probably thinking the same thing...).

billh · Post by **billh** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:40 pm

It's really hard to tell much from the existing photos (too small, for one thing).

The date Alain gave seems very early to me - my instinct says too early. That's the very oldest the set could be anyway, and it could easily be considerably later. The chanter cap tied directly into the bag is interesting but inconclusive. I agree that W Rousome is a possibility...

Rory, what is the length of the chanter (from reed seat to end of chanter?)

The bass drone slide tenon looks wonky/cut. Wonder what's up there... also the square-ish regulator key blocks are usually not a great sign.

regards

Bill

Hans-Joerg · Post by **Hans-Joerg** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:53 am

What strikes me are just the bellows of this set. They look fairly similar to these IMO:
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(supplied recently) Is there a story behind this?
Hans

billh · Post by **billh** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:20 am

Hans-Joerg wrote:What strikes me are just the bellows of this set. They look fairly similar to these IMO:
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(supplied recently) Is there a story behind this?
Hans

Interesting - the bellows with the "John Egan" set has a plate clearly stamped "ROWSOME" - ok, no surprise the bellows is not original. I agree that this ROWSOME bellows looks an awful lot like the bellows in the Fitzgibbon set.

I believe the early Willie R. stuff had square key blocks too, but not the later stuff. Thus the "Rousome" comment...

Are you sure there are no makers' marks on this set anywhere? I'd love to have a close look at it.

Bill

mukade · Post by **mukade** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:15 am

Weren't NPU making a pipe museum?

Perhaps they will buy them.

It's preferable to have unplayable pipes in display cases than playable ones.

Mukade

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