Welsh pronunciation

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Welsh pronunciation

Post by Lost-in-North-Dakota »

From Karl Ahrens' book, I am working on #34....Ble 'rwyt ti'n myned? My guess (perhaps wrong?) is that is Welsh.

Would some kind soul help me with a phonetic pronunciation of this title?

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Post by Easily_Deluded_Fool »

Ble 'rwyt ti'n myned?

Blay rit tin mun ed?

Where is the entrance?

The sentence 'lifts' at the end to imply a question

mun ^ed.

I'm from S Wales, so be aware that the N Waleans pronounce
things differently.
S.Wales the first 'y' is pronounced "uh".
N.Wales the first 'y' is pronounced "i" as in stick.

No doubt some Bardy will be along shortly to
give a different opinion :D
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Post by Craig-y-Nos »

I am also from South Wales but would suggest the following phonetic pronunciation.
Pronounce Ble and 'rwyt as one word - Blareute (ute as in mute), ti'n as 'teen' and muned as mun ed.
Therefore - Blarute teen mun ed?
Any other suggestions :)

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Bleirut ????

Is that the state that Tony's going to be leaving the Labour party in?
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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Post by Lost-in-North-Dakota »

Boy...am I ever glad that I didn't venture a guess in public....I was not even close.

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Post by Geraint »

Erm

I have to...

Phonetically, it's rather difficult to render 'cos my English pronunciation is, well, Welsh, and the way anyone else will do it will depends on the sounds they use...

The 'e' in 'Ble has to be flat, tho, and never a dipthong - maybe like the 'e' in 'pet'

The 'wy' is possibly the most difficult combination of sounds to render phonetically. In south Wales it'd be a short 'oo' like the 'u' in 'put', and then an 'ee' as in 'meet', run together quickly.

Myned is the easiest to break down - 'mun-ed' as has been said.

So 'Bleh roo-eet teen mun-ed?' Should be a rising inflection at the end, too, cos it's a question ;-)

It means 'Where are you going?'. If I remember the full question is 'Ble rwyt ti'n myned / Fy morwyn ffein i?' ' Where are you going my fine maid?' as this fella does his best to chat up a girl. Mabsant, I know, have recorded it (I think on 'Blwyddyn Gron' or some such) and you'd get an idea of pronunciation on that!

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