Cocaine traces on Dublin banknotes

SteveShaw · Post by **SteveShaw** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:13 am

Shopping trolleys, coins, library books, banknotes...all a bit on the nasty side, if you think about them too much. Two things about using public toilets always strike me as being very wacky. First, why should a man wash his hands after having a piddle? His "piddling kit" is kept well-wrapped except for the necessary brief piddling procedure, so should be pretty clean (one hopes), and urine is germ-free (one hopes). It's his grubby hands that carry all the dirt of the day, so surely he should wash them before piddling! Second, you fastidiously wash your hands, only to find that you're then obliged to grab a door-handle to make your exit, a door-handle that's presumably been grabbed by a thousand post-poo unwashed hands before you. Hands up all those who open the door using just a crooked little finger which one then wipes on one's trousers!

I think your skin flora can take care of most brushes with unfriendly germs. As I understand it, colds and flu are often transmitted by fingers from infected surfaces to the mouth, nose or eyes. The viruses can live for hours outside the body and you only need to pick up a few.

If you're aesthetically offended by these thoughts, just keep a packet of wet-wipes in your bag/car, but don't be surprised if you get looks of pity whilst using them!

susnfx · Post by **susnfx** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:25 am

SteveShaw wrote:If you're aesthetically offended by these thoughts, just keep a packet of wet-wipes in your bag/car, but don't be surprised if you get looks of pity whilst using them!

I've never noticed looks of pity while wiping off a shopping cart handle--I did have a woman ask if she could have one of my wet-wipes for her cart.

I'm not overly-concerned about germs--I handle money, purses, door handles, stair rails, etc., all without a thought. But I also don't think I need to go out of my way to pick up some extra germs and if I can avoid a few of the nastier ones (at least to me) by wiping off a shopping cart handle, I will.

Susan

crookedtune · Post by **crookedtune** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:34 am

Wipe....!!!!!!!!

SteveShaw · Post by **SteveShaw** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:49 am

susnfx wrote: I'm not overly-concerned about germs--I handle money, purses, door handles, stair rails, etc., all without a thought. But I also don't think I need to go out of my way to pick up some extra germs and if I can avoid a few of the nastier ones (at least to me) by wiping off a shopping cart handle, I will.

Susan

A balanced view. I have to confess to having a packet of wet-wipes in my car, wimp that I am.

mukade · Post by **mukade** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:32 pm

susnfx wrote:I don't have any quarrel with the "it's possible to be too clean" notion. I only protect myself from shopping cart handles because of what I know is there. I prefer to clean them before using them if I can and, if the carts available appear particulary dirty, I have used my coat sleeve as a barrier.

It's the more off-topic statement from Mukade about pets and allergies that has me baffled. Here's a link to an information statement from the American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology about pets and allergies:

http://www.acaai.org/public/advice/pets.htm

Susan

I have read it several times over the past couple of years.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/36/1728_55562

Mukade

s1m0n · Post by **s1m0n** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:26 am

A couple of years ago a researcher snuck into the staff-and-senators only bathrooms in the US senate and discovered that every urinal tested positive for cocaine.

susnfx · Post by **susnfx** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:02 pm

Thanks for the link, Mukade. I'm printing that article off to take to work and get the opinions of a few doctors on it.

Susan

susnfx · Post by **susnfx** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:04 pm

s1m0n wrote:A couple of years ago a researcher snuck into the staff-and-senators only bathrooms in the US senate and discovered that every urinal tested positive for cocaine.

I'm not surprised. I know one thing for certain--I don't want to do that type of research.

Susan

djm · Post by **djm** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:12 pm

I'm no scientist by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing I did learn is reading about scientific research is a basic rule: correlation does NOT indicate causation. And yet, everything about the study of allergies seems to be based on exactly this fundamental error. Is it any wonder there is so much controversy surrounding allergies?

djm

flanum · Post by **flanum** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:26 pm

susnfx wrote:I can't decide which bothers me more: cocaine on money or fecal matter on shopping cart handles....

Susan

Or fecal matter that has been deliberately scraped into the outflow grille of a hand-dryer! (picture it, i came across this once in a Dub pub)!

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Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:10 pm

flanum wrote:
susnfx wrote:I can't decide which bothers me more: cocaine on money or fecal matter on shopping cart handles....

Susan
Or fecal matter that has been deliberately scraped into the outflow grille of a hand-dryer! (picture it, i came across this once in a Dub pub)!

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djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:59 pm

Where did you .... How did you ......

No, don't tell me. I don't think I want to know.

djm

harpmaker · Post by **harpmaker** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:14 pm

There's are bar a few miles away from me that is a real hole in the wall type of joint. In the mens restroom there aeems to be some sort of wierd tradition of tossing coins into the urinals. No joke....you go in early in the evening and the urinals will be empty but as the evening progresses, coins start appearing. By close to closing time there might be a couple of handfuls of coins....and then someone cleans them out.

I have is image of some drunk thinking "Ah! Enough for another round!"

Yech!

I wouldn't even go in this bar except that they usually have a good band or DJ

jsluder · Post by **jsluder** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:19 pm

harpmaker wrote:There's are bar a few miles away from me that is a real hole in the wall type of joint. In the mens restroom there aeems to be some sort of wierd tradition of tossing coins into the urinals. No joke....you go in early in the evening and the urinals will be empty but as the evening progresses, coins start appearing. By close to closing time there might be a couple of handfuls of coins....and then someone cleans them out.

I have is image of some drunk thinking "Ah! Enough for another round!"

Yech!

I wouldn't even go in this bar except that they usually have a good band or DJ

Just think: the way money gets around, any one of us could have one or two of those coins jingling in a pocket. And they probably weren't washed.

mukade · Post by **mukade** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:39 pm

susnfx wrote:Thanks for the link, Mukade. I'm printing that article off to take to work and get the opinions of a few doctors on it.

Susan

More research about keeping pets and the positive effects on developing immune systems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 731058.stm

What did your doctors have to say about it?

Mukade