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talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:02 pm

Cynth wrote:Okay, I'm sure it is because I went to an American college, but I don't understand what this choice means:
your friends and admirers are causeless and have nothing to say to you
Your friends are causeless? What the heck is that?

[followed by sizeable chunks from some thesaurus]

Oh Dear! I see you are suffering the tyranny of American literalism again ........ Do you not read theology? Ever?

Let me put on my saturnine cap for a moment and plod through this with you.

The first synonym for "cause (noun)" is "origin" (Oxford Thesaurus) and the primary meaning of "cause (noun)" is "what produces an effect" (Oxford Concise Dictionary).

A causeless friendship is, like God's causeless love, something that is not an effect of something, something which has no origin, something that is eternal, uncaused and therefore beyond the obsessive reach of explanation.

A causeless friendship has no reason to be, nothing to achieve, no quid pro quo . A causeless friendship need not prove itself, need not fill the vacuum of distance with incessant PMs, perennial encouragement, social approbation.

A causeless friendship, like the inimitable silence between seasoned lovers, revels in the timeless fullness of being.

Do they have such friendships in America?

djm · Post by **djm** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:07 pm

talasiga wrote:Do they have such friendships in America?

Walmart, Aisle 42.

djm

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:48 pm

djm wrote:
talasiga wrote:Do they have such friendships in America?
Walmart, Aisle 42.

djm

would ya know if they're marked down tomorrow?

Cynth · Post by **Cynth** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:57 pm

talasiga wrote:
Cynth wrote:Okay, I'm sure it is because I went to an American college, but I don't understand what this choice means:
your friends and admirers are causeless and have nothing to say to you
Your friends are causeless? What the heck is that?

[followed by sizeable chunks from some thesaurus]

Oh Dear! I see you are suffering the tyranny of American literalism again ........ Do you not read theology? Ever?

Not ever.

talasiga wrote:Let me put on my saturnine cap for a moment and plod through this with you.

Your saturnine cap?

Definition of saturnine
1. [a] showing a brooding ill humor; "a dark scowl"; "the proverbially dour New England Puritan"; "a glum, hopeless shrug"; "in moody silence"; "a morose and unsociable manner"; "a saturnine, almost misanthropic young genius"- Bruce Bliven; "a sour temper". More...

2. [a] bitter or scornful; "the face was saturnine and swarthy, and the sensual lips...twisted with disdain"- Oscar Wilde. More...

Your cap is showing a brooding ill humor and is bitter or scornful? What the heck is that?

talasiga wrote:The first synonym for "cause (noun)" is "origin" (Oxford Thesaurus) and the primary meaning of "cause (noun)" is "what produces an effect" (Oxford Concise Dictionary).

A causeless friendship is, like God's causeless love, something that is not an effect of something, something which has no origin, something that is eternal, uncaused and therefore beyond the obsessive reach of explanation.

A causeless friendship has no reason to be, nothing to achieve, no quid pro quo . A causeless friendship need not prove itself, need not fill the vacuum of distance with incessant PMs, perennial encouragement, social approbation.

A causeless friendship, like the inimitable silence between seasoned lovers, revels in the timeless fullness of being.

Do they have such friendships in America?

Well, except for the part about "something which has no origin" and the "eternal" bits, I think there are friendships in America which would meet all the other criteria. I call that type of friend a kindred spirit.

Okay, I will now study the choices again and decide how to vote.

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:33 pm

Cynth wrote: .......
Your cap is showing a brooding ill humor and is bitter or scornful? What the heck is that?
......

Once agin you are relying on secondary semantic sources.
Do you not read astrolgy? Never.

The source semantic of saturnine is from the astrological Saturn, the serious wizened teacher, archetype of responsibility, long sightedness, builder of structures, the sower and reaper, the agriculturalist, the despised yet indispensable peasant, Old Man Time aka Chronos.
Main metallic association:- lead.

Flights of poetry and poetic flourish in common parlance are Mercurial and Venusian come Neptunian. When such expressions are not understood and the speaker is forced to explain- the creative winged cap is put aside and the leaden cap of Saturn is donned. Heavy stuff but necessary. Flowers and butterflies an that. Yet still manure fork furthers it all. No blame.

Cynth · Post by **Cynth** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:03 am

talasiga wrote:
Cynth wrote: .......
Your cap is showing a brooding ill humor and is bitter or scornful? What the heck is that?
......
Once agin you are relying on secondary semantic sources.
Do you not read astrolgy? Never.

Never, ever

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talasiga wrote:The source semantic of saturnine is from the astrological Saturn, the serious wizened teacher, archetype of responsibility, long sightedness, builder of structures, the sower and reaper, the agriculturalist, the despised yet indispensable peasant, Old Man Time aka Chronos.
Main metallic association:- lead.

Flights of poetry and poetic flourish in common parlance are Mercurial and Venusian come Neptunian. When such expressions are not understood and the speaker is forced to explain- the creative winged cap is put aside and the leaden cap of Saturn is donned. Heavy stuff but necessary. Flowers and butterflies an that. Yet still manure fork furthers it all. No blame.

I never heard about Saturn wearing a leaden cap---I can see why that would make a planet gloomy. I'm sure it is very tedious to have to explain one's poetical flourishes-----but at least you know you've done the right thing

. OH! I just read that Saturn ate all his children but one. Are we talking about the same Saturn?

djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:35 am

Cynth wrote:I just read that Saturn ate all his children but one. Are we talking about the same Saturn?

How could he have eaten all his children when they are there today still, mooning him?

djm

Cynth · Post by **Cynth** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:04 pm

I think the moons are Saturn's brothers and sisters.
He didn't actually eat all his children.
Jupiter was hidden and was the only survivor.

Saturn devouring his son
(Francisco de Goya, c. 1815).

Post by **Nanohedron** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:21 pm

djm wrote:
Cynth wrote:I just read that Saturn ate all his children but one. Are we talking about the same Saturn?
How could he have eaten all his children when they are there today still, mooning him?

djm

Oh, you're a sly one. Don't answer your own question. Thanks.

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:50 pm

I hope no one is suggesting that I devour my PMs.

Bloomfield · Post by **Bloomfield** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:13 pm

talasiga wrote:I hope no one is suggesting that I devour my PMs.

On the other hand you should be used to eating your words by now.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:39 pm

Wham!

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:23 am

Bloomfield wrote:
talasiga wrote:I hope no one is suggesting that I devour my PMs.
On the other hand you should be used to eating your words by now.

::rimshot::

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:02 pm

Bloomfield wrote:
talasiga wrote:I hope no one is suggesting that I devour my PMs.
On the other hand you should be used to eating your words by now.

I'd eat your PM for breakfast except its not AM here now.

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