what are these things called in english?

scottielvr · Post by **scottielvr** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:08 pm

SteveShaw wrote:... (if I had a dog it would be .... dead).

"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience."
--Woodrow Wilson

SteveShaw · Post by **SteveShaw** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:19 pm

scottielvr wrote:
SteveShaw wrote:... (if I had a dog it would be .... dead).
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience." --Woodrow Wilson
wink:

"If a dog will not come to me after having looked at me in the face, and not jump up and "playfully" put its muddy feet all up my jumper, nor foul my very shoes with its street-ordure, nor yet sh1t in my garden or bark all night, then a happy chappie I shall be." --Steve Shaw

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Rod Sprague · Post by **Rod Sprague** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:42 pm

amar wrote:no, sissies because of getting watery eyes if there is a nice lemon scent in the air.

So if I have health issues because someone scents the air, and that makes me a sissy, does that make someone who takes insulin a sissy and they should stop and not complain?

Cynth · Post by **Cynth** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:52 pm

Martin Milner wrote:I can tell at one whiff if someone at work has had a cigarette in the last twenty minutes, and of course a couple of hours in a smoky pub session are slow torture. Roll on the day when the smokers are all dead and the rest of us can breathe untainted air again.

Dude!

I am fine with smoking outside away from everyone. I prefer it. It makes an excellent excuse to leave off trying to make conversation for a few blessed minutes. I pick up my butts and put them in ziploc bags. I don't think people should have to breathe my smoke. So I don't blame you on that one.

As far as people stinking from smoking, well, that doesn't injure a person's health so I go along with Fran Liebowitz on that one (although she was actually talking about the act of smoking, not just the remaining odor---so I don't go along with being able to smoke anywhere, just on being allowed to smell like a smoker without being given the death sentence

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Fran Liebowitz wrote:I understand, of course, that many people find smoking objectionable. That is their right. I would, I assure you, be the very last to criticize the annoyed. I myself find many-- even most-- things objectionable. Being offended is the natural consequence of leaving one's home. I do not like aftershave lotion, adults who roller-skate, children who speak French, or anyone who is unduly tan. I do not, however, go around enacting legislation and putting up signs. In private I avoid such people; in public they have the run of the place. I stay at home as much as possible, and so should they. When it is necessary, however, to go out of the house, they must be prepared, as I am, to deal with the unpleasant personal habits of others. That is what "public" means.

djm · Post by **djm** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:02 pm

Rod Sprague wrote:does that make someone who takes insulin a sissy and they should stop and not complain?

Absolutely! Knowing that they themselves are sickly wussies, they have no right to impinge on the personal freedom of others. They exist at the goodwill of the majority, but are looking for trouble when they try to browbeat others with their weakness.

djm

scottielvr · Post by **scottielvr** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:50 pm

Cynth wrote:As far as people stinking from smoking, well, that doesn't injure a person's health so I go along with Fran Liebowitz on that one ...

Fran Liebowitz is Goddess.

But you forgot: "I would never teach a child to smoke who couldn't do long division first."

Oh, and since this was recently raised elsewhere, here's one of hers that's just for Walden.

"Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real life, I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra."

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:31 am

Cynth wrote:
Martin Milner wrote:I can tell at one whiff if someone at work has had a cigarette in the last twenty minutes, and of course a couple of hours in a smoky pub session are slow torture. Roll on the day when the smokers are all dead and the rest of us can breathe untainted air again.
Dude! I am fine with smoking outside away from everyone. I prefer it. It makes an excellent excuse to leave off trying to make conversation for a few blessed minutes. I pick up my butts and put them in ziploc bags. I don't think people should have to breathe my smoke. So I don't blame you on that one.

As far as people stinking from smoking, well, that doesn't injure a person's health so I go along with Fran Liebowitz on that one (although she was actually talking about the act of smoking, not just the remaining odor---so I don't go along with being able to smoke anywhere, just on being allowed to smell like a smoker without being given the death sentence ).

Fran Liebowitz wrote:I understand, of course, that many people find smoking objectionable. That is their right. I would, I assure you, be the very last to criticize the annoyed. I myself find many-- even most-- things objectionable. Being offended is the natural consequence of leaving one's home. I do not like aftershave lotion, adults who roller-skate, children who speak French, or anyone who is unduly tan. I do not, however, go around enacting legislation and putting up signs. In private I avoid such people; in public they have the run of the place. I stay at home as much as possible, and so should they. When it is necessary, however, to go out of the house, they must be prepared, as I am, to deal with the unpleasant personal habits of others. That is what "public" means.

Amen.

amar · Post by **amar** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:31 am

djm wrote:
Rod Sprague wrote:does that make someone who takes insulin a sissy and they should stop and not complain?
Absolutely! Knowing that they themselves are sickly wussies, they have no right to impinge on the personal freedom of others. They exist at the goodwill of the majority, but are looking for trouble when they try to browbeat others with their weakness.

djm

hyldemoer · Post by **hyldemoer** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:16 pm

The fastest way to put a chemical into you blood, short of using a needle, is to inhale it.

Smells are caused by chemicals in the air.

The whole idea behind Aromatherapy is that one is putting the chemical constituents of herbs by the most direct route into the blood.

Aromatherapy can be a very effective way to take herbal medications if you know what you have going on and know which essential oils relate to correcting the adventure.

Arbitrarily using some artificially manufactured stink pretty scent is nothing more than air pollution.

Read labels.

Rod Sprague · Post by **Rod Sprague** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:01 pm

I have no problem with aromatherapy done using sound theory, I just happen to agree that using arbitrary odors is a form of air pollution, especially if people are having allergic or other bad reactions to it. It sounds like calling the obnoxiously scented stuff aromatherapy products is a form of fraud, even if they can get away with it legally.

hyldemoer · Post by **hyldemoer** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:16 am

Rod Sprague wrote:I have no problem with aromatherapy done using sound theory, I just happen to agree that using arbitrary odors is a form of air pollution, especially if people are having allergic or other bad reactions to it. It sounds like calling the obnoxiously scented stuff aromatherapy products is a form of fraud, even if they can get away with it legally.

There's another issue that even an aromatherapy is approached with a science based theory needs to address, how the essential oils used (derived from actual plant sources) affect those exposed to their scents as second hand aromatherapy.

If I spray myself with a solution that has a blend of oils to help me balance my postmenopausal hormones or assist me deal with my lack of appetite, what kind of an effect with it have on a pregnant neighbor or grief stricken relative when we go shopping together?

Even if the formula wasn't arbitrarily chosen for me, it suddenly becomes arbitrary and invasive to my innocent companions.

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:35 am

hyldemoer wrote:it suddenly becomes arbitrary and invasive to my innocent companions.

Kinda like a ƒart with side-effects?

SteveShaw · Post by **SteveShaw** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:31 am

GaryKelly wrote:
hyldemoer wrote:it suddenly becomes arbitrary and invasive to my innocent companions.
Kinda like a ƒart with side-effects?

Are there farts without side-effects, favourable or otherwise?

Mitch · Post by **Mitch** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:48 am

It's an odd thing the ole' factory. I live in a place festooned by show gardens Only last week we were inundated by a storm of flower petals - I thought it was snowing. A week before, my car was yellow from all the pollen on it (and it's in a carport). I can walk up the road and get uplifted and nauseated alternately with every second step (and then I go past the plot covered in blood-and-bone - it's a relief).

Life stinks - but I like it

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:52 pm

SteveShaw wrote: "If a dog will not come to me after having looked at me in the face, and not jump up and "playfully" put its muddy feet all up my jumper, nor foul my very shoes with its street-ordure, nor yet sh1t in my garden or bark all night, then a happy chappie I shall be." --Steve Shaw

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Don't blame the dog, blame the owner. Well trained dogs don't cause any of those problems.

Loren