So am I, but you don't see me complaining.King Friday wrote:I'm 17 years old if that gives me any priority.
I would definatly be interested in trying on and I do want a Low D for a concert I am doing on the 27th.
Hint on that labium--Glenn used a single cut triangular file which only had teeth on one side (I use an identical one that he gave me). Start on one side of the lip and file almost down to where you want it. Flip the file and file the other side (file will cut differently on each side). File in the middle of the lip, then split the difference between the middle and the sides, yielding 5 flats. Gradually work these smoother and closer to round. I give them a final finish with an extra fine diamond file. You can also make a "file" by gluing some 400 grit sandpaper to a think piece of popsicle stick.King Friday wrote:On my WW I could never get over the construction of the labium. I've never seen anything done that perfectly in my life. And thats not done with a machine either! .
True enough! Some of us are left to learn by our own devices so I hope folks such as Brewerpaul and yourself keep spreading the wealth of your experience.But then it's all in how you learn I suppose - nearly identical results can be obtained with both methods.
I should add: I'm not certain I understand Paul's description about flipping the file around to avoid getting an different cut on one side vs. the other side of the labium. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, because the way I would file the ramp and labium, no file flipping would be needed. However, after thinking about it, I suspect Paul is not using a Barrette needle file afterall, but rather a larger triangle file that has been modified.brewerpaul wrote:Hint on that labium--Glenn used a single cut triangular file which only had teeth on one side (I use an identical one that he gave me). Start on one side of the lip and file almost down to where you want it. Flip the file and file the other side (file will cut differently on each side).
You're welcome.Feadoggie wrote:Loren, thanks for the Rio Grande suggestion.
Well, you know Dennis, it's a bit of a touchy subject for me, and I suspect some of the other makers who do this sort of thing for a living: On the one hand, I enjoy helping others learn. On the other hand, we have what seem to be more people making and selling whistles every month. Many don't do it for a living, but still, the market is limited, and a professional woodwind maker has to ask him/herself the question "Am I shooting myself in the foot?" It's a bit of a tough call, and I think you'll note that we don't see most of the the commercial makers here offering advice on how to make whistles. It is a tough way to make a living, and many of us have made significant sacrifices to learn the craft - I know I did.But then it's all in how you learn I suppose - nearly identical results can be obtained with both methods.
True enough! Some of us are left to learn by our own devices so I hope folks such as Brewerpaul and yourself keep spreading the wealth of your experience.
Dennis
Yeah, I looked up needle files today, and I coudln't jive Pauls description with the images I found. Pillar files looked promising. I'm just not happy with the triangular file.Loren wrote:I should add: I'm not certain I understand Paul's description about flipping the file around to avoid getting an different cut on one side vs. the other side of the labium. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, because the way I would file the ramp and labium, no file flipping would be needed. However, after thinking about it, I suspect Paul is not using a Barrette needle file afterall, but rather a larger triangle file that has been modified.brewerpaul wrote:Hint on that labium--Glenn used a single cut triangular file which only had teeth on one side (I use an identical one that he gave me). Start on one side of the lip and file almost down to where you want it. Flip the file and file the other side (file will cut differently on each side).
I am not sure I understand what paul means by flipping the file either.Loren wrote:I should add: I'm not certain I understand Paul's description about flipping the file around to avoid getting an different cut on one side vs. the other side of the labium. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding,brewerpaul wrote:Hint on that labium--Glenn used a single cut triangular file which only had teeth on one side (I use an identical one that he gave me). Start on one side of the lip and file almost down to where you want it. Flip the file and file the other side (file will cut differently on each side).