Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring.....help sought

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:59 am

I am learning to play this, but so far not much joy!

Anyone have tips on breathing for this...it seems anywhere I try to take a breath, it interferes with the flow...and this piece should flow, n'est pas?

raindog1970 · Post by **raindog1970** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:06 am

If you haven't already, listen to Mick Woodruff's quintet arrangement of it.
http://fingertrip.net/clipsnip/jesujoy-mick.mp3
It might give you a better idea of where to take breaths, and it's well worth a listen even if only for inspiration.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:49 am

Breath at the beginning of each
line, I say.

mgwhitehead · Post by **mgwhitehead** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 11:20 am

I ordered sheet music of this written for C tenor recorder. Although it's in G, there's a whole middle section with accidentals requiring far too much in the way of half-holing. Can somebody point me to a website that has the notation modified for whistle? Thanks.

Whitey

E = Fb · Post by **E = Fb** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 11:27 am

I've played this (not well) and just stopped when all those accidentals crop up.

But I played it jig style. You'll notice it's written like a jig and I just make it lilt like a jig, and breath as I would on any jig, shortening some notes as I see fit. I don't go for that smooth flow thing. Also, if you compare this piece with the Irish Washerwoman you'll find the two morph together very nicely. I call the result "The Irish Catholic Washerwoman".

thurlowe · Post by **thurlowe** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:15 pm

On 2002-09-24 13:27, E = Fb wrote:
I call the result "The Irish Catholic Washerwoman".

Since J.S. Bach was Lutheran, maybe it should be called "The Irish Lutheran Washerwoman."

Jeferson · Post by **Jeferson** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:28 pm

On 2002-09-24 13:20, mgwhitehead wrote:
Although it's in G, there's a whole middle section with accidentals requiring far too much in the way of half-holing.
Whitey

Actually, if you start on a whistle in any key and play the first note as the third note up on the scale (eg. D whistle = start on the F#; G whistle start on B, etc.), then the entire song plays with no half-holing required.

Jef

mgwhitehead · Post by **mgwhitehead** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:26 pm

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Actually, if you start on a whistle in any key and play the first note as the third note up on the scale . . .
Jef
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Way cool. Thanks for the tip Jef.

Whitey

ChrisLaughlin · Post by **ChrisLaughlin** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:45 pm

If you all enjoy this sort of thing, you might want to check out "Pachelbell's Frolics" on either John Whynne's "Every Breath" (flute) or John William's "Steam" (concertina/accordion). It is a reel version of Pachelbel's Canon and is very cool.
Best,
Chris

BrassBlower · Post by **BrassBlower** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:06 pm

On 2002-09-24 17:45, ChrisLaughlin wrote:
If you all enjoy this sort of thing, you might want to check out "Pachelbell's Frolics" on either John Whynne's "Every Breath" (flute) or John William's "Steam" (concertina/accordion). It is a reel version of Pachelbel's Canon and is very cool.
Best,
Chris

Eileen Ivers does a fiddle version of this, too.

cowtime · Post by **cowtime** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:12 pm

The problem of breathing during Jesu is one I remember encountering way back when I was in the high school band playing clarinet. Our band director told us this piece was not written with the melody line intended for wind instruments, therefore there really is NO place for breathing. He had me and another clarinet alternate our breathing spots to keep the music flowing smoothly. As a solo tune on a wind instrument ...now that's a problem.

Eldarion · Post by **Eldarion** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:16 pm

On 2002-09-24 22:06, BrassBlower wrote:
On 2002-09-24 17:45, ChrisLaughlin wrote:
If you all enjoy this sort of thing, you might want to check out "Pachelbell's Frolics" on either John Whynne's "Every Breath" (flute) or John William's "Steam" (concertina/accordion).
Eileen Ivers does a fiddle version of this, too.

Yup and so does Martin Hayes on his Live in Seattle CD. I think he does it at the end of a very long long set (something like more than half an hour).