Kee Chen

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:11 pm

Remember the Japanese chef for MacHale's Navy? They called him Kee chen? Remember?

Well this is not about him. It's about kitchens.

You know I hate - I really really hate certain types of kitchens
1. Pretty little dolly house kitchens
2. Glossy bossy nouveau riche kitchens
3. Dirty or untidy or cluttered kitchens.

I can explain these if you llike. Its not just about me though. Can we talk about this?

Doug_Tipple · Post by **Doug_Tipple** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:24 pm

Talasiga, do you think that there is hope for a kitchen with three cat boxes?

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:14 pm

Mr Tipple! Such a kitchen would immediately come under category 3 for me, no matter how acceptable it may be be in every other respect.

A kitchen with 3 cat boxes is like a kitchen with 30 mousetraps on the floor.

I would never walk bare foot in such a kitchen!

hyldemoer · Post by **hyldemoer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:15 pm

Doug_Tipple wrote:Talasiga, do you think that there is hope for a kitchen with three cat boxes?

No hope.
bad fung shui,
very bad feng shui.

djm · Post by **djm** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:22 pm

Doug_Tipple wrote:a kitchen with three cat boxes

Planning for a Chinese banquet?

djm

scottielvr · Post by **scottielvr** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:45 pm

In my kitchen, I require the following: A big sink (with no dirty dishes in it, preferably); plenty of counter space; good, sharp knives, readily accessible; a gas stove; a reasonably accurate oven; lots of cabinet space and drawers. I try to keep the counters uncluttered so they can be cleaned easily; that's important. I'd love to have a marble slab for baking, but haven't managed that yet. Oh, and lots and lots of light. (I can never get enough light onto my kitchen work space. I keep putting up those little halogen lights under the cabinets, but they keep shorting out, or something). My dream kitchen would have a skylight or two, and under-cabinet lighting that actually works. --And I have to be able to listen to music while I cook. Aesthetics take a back seat to all those considerations.

Doug_Tipple · Post by **Doug_Tipple** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:02 pm

scottielvr wrote:In my kitchen, I require the following: A big sink (with no dirty dishes in it, preferably); plenty of counter space; good, sharp knives, readily accessible; a gas stove; a reasonably accurate oven; lots of cabinet space and drawers. I try to keep the counters uncluttered so they can be cleaned easily; that's important. I'd love to have a marble slab for baking, but haven't managed that yet. Oh, and lots and lots of light. (I can never get enough light onto my kitchen work space. I keep putting up those little halogen lights under the cabinets, but they keep shorting out, or something). My dream kitchen would have a skylight or two, and under-cabinet lighting that actually works. --And I have to be able to listen to music while I cook. Aesthetics take a back seat to all those considerations.

Yes, I know that you like seeing the blue flame with a gas stove, but what you don't see is the problem. Gas stoves and ovens give off a toxic gas (nitrous oxide, I believe) into the indoor environment. I'm sorry, but I cannot tolerate being in a kitchen where gas appliances are being used. In my opinion, a healthy kitchen should be all electric.

scottielvr · Post by **scottielvr** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:30 pm

Doug_Tipple wrote:Gas stoves and ovens give off a toxic gas (nitrous oxide, I believe) into the indoor environment. I'm sorry, but I cannot tolerate being in a kitchen where gas appliances are being used. In my opinion, a healthy kitchen should be all electric.

Point well taken; and I appreciate the health concerns you raise. (The main gas given off is CO). I'm always careful to provide good ventilation from the window plus outside-vent range hood; and the stove is kept clean, and the burners kept properly adjusted (blue flame good, yellow flame bad, to express it simplistically).

My choice of a gas stove is primarily practical (they just work much better for cooking, I feel)...but also economic; where I live, propane is much much less expensive. I take the above precautions, and otherwise... Heck. I smoke. The few ppm of CO from the stove that might remain undissipated or unvented, well... kind of pales in the face of that fact. I never claimed to be the least bit sensible.

P.S. Speaking of health concerns...3 litter boxes? In a kitchen? Were that a commercial establishment, I suspect a public health department would take a rather dim view of it.

dfernandez77 · Post by **dfernandez77** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:01 am

Doug_Tipple wrote:a kitchen with three cat boxes?

How about some Kitty Litter Cake?
http://www.fabulousfoods.com/recipes/de ... rcake.html

Coffee · Post by **Coffee** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:18 am

If at all feasible, I cook outside. Stove is a distand second option.

Whistlin'Dixie · Post by **Whistlin'Dixie** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:00 am

Cat boxes in the kitchen.

Doug, I am sure you are kidding us.

M

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:16 am

Whistlin'Dixie wrote:Cat boxes in the kitchen.

Doug, I am sure you are kidding us.

M

He didn't admit to that. He just asked a question.
He may have cat boxes but we know not on the evidence at hand.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:22 am

My kitchen is very small, often cluttered with non-kitchen things, and a Bull Terrier always under foot looking for scraps of this and that which should happen to find their way to the floor. It's not a dirty kitchen, but I think it would fall under your catagory 3.

missy · Post by **missy** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:42 am

My kitchen is way too small, and most of the cabinet and shelves were made for a person much taller than I am.
But since Tom does most of the cooking, I can live with it!

Seriously, we would like to gut it and completely redo it, but that's one of those "get around to-its". The person that owned the house before me did one of those cabinet redos where they paste laminate on them, and I can't stand it. The counter tops are also laminate (which I can live with), but they have a very small backsplash, and the wall behind needs to have something done with it. It has built in burners (electric) and built in oven (not a self cleaning) - both need to be updated.

I.D.10-t · Post by **I.D.10-t** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:56 am

missy wrote:...and built in oven (not a self cleaning) - both need to be updated.

What do people bake that makes their oven so dirty? I cannot think of the last time that I had something burned to the oven. If I am going to bake something that may boil over (pecan pie etc) I just put a cookie sheet down under it.

My apartment's oven two moves ago was an old gas oven that didn't have a pilot light, you had to light it and wait for the blue fireball. I wish I could have taken it with me. The burners provided even heat and the oven was always spot on for the temp. One night I was over at the neighbor's apartment during one of our “home made” pizza nights. The power went out and my stove was the only one in the apartment that didn't need electricity to work. The pilot light in the center kept tea warm.