Girl escapes eight year kidnap ordeal
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Girl escapes eight year kidnap ordeal
Not sure if this should be in the political forum?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2351466
http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Austria/10062390.html
What an an unbelivable story.
The poor girl, poor family!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2351466
http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Austria/10062390.html
What an an unbelivable story.
The poor girl, poor family!
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I'm not sure why you, in your first post, thought this story should possibly be in the political forum, so perhaps I'm not understanding something.
I am sure that everyone who reads about this crime thinks it is terrible. You can just assume that. Only a really sick person would not think so.
Most people probably think that, since they cannot say anything that will help the woman and her family or will prevent such a crime from happening again, there is not much point in stating the obvious which would be "Oh, that is so terrible. It is really horrifying."
Unless a person is a criminologist or forensic psychologist or the like, discussing the details of something so awful doesn't seem very worthwhile when you can't help anyone by talking about it.
I don't think you should take the lack of response as an indication that people are cold-hearted. Believe me, they think it is terrible for the woman and her family and that the man was clearly insane, but they, like me, don't have any further comments about it worth posting. What can you really say about something like this beyond the obvious?
I know sometimes something will hit me especially hard and other people don't seem to take it the same way I do. I imagine that happens to everyone. So maybe this story is affecting you in some special way that other people just aren't experiencing. They all think it is terrible, of course, but maybe the story is saying something to you that it isn't saying to everyone else. I don't know, it's just a thought.
I am sure that everyone who reads about this crime thinks it is terrible. You can just assume that. Only a really sick person would not think so.
Most people probably think that, since they cannot say anything that will help the woman and her family or will prevent such a crime from happening again, there is not much point in stating the obvious which would be "Oh, that is so terrible. It is really horrifying."
Unless a person is a criminologist or forensic psychologist or the like, discussing the details of something so awful doesn't seem very worthwhile when you can't help anyone by talking about it.
I don't think you should take the lack of response as an indication that people are cold-hearted. Believe me, they think it is terrible for the woman and her family and that the man was clearly insane, but they, like me, don't have any further comments about it worth posting. What can you really say about something like this beyond the obvious?
I know sometimes something will hit me especially hard and other people don't seem to take it the same way I do. I imagine that happens to everyone. So maybe this story is affecting you in some special way that other people just aren't experiencing. They all think it is terrible, of course, but maybe the story is saying something to you that it isn't saying to everyone else. I don't know, it's just a thought.
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Perhaps you have difficulty communicating your feelings? I think that if this guy had lived he would have gotten either a slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence or a life-time nuthouse prescription but either way in three or four years, someone would get him to write a book about it and everyone would be horrified that he wrote a book about it but everyone would buy the book too and he would get quite rich from it and become a bit of a minor celebrity showing up on talk shows and university lecture tours and maybe get his photo taken with Bono or somebody famous and everyone would pay lip-service to how horrible what he did was but they'd still pay a load o' cash to go and see him and hear him speak and of course all the big American networks would want to have him on cuz they gotta keep them ratings up and eventually some other nutjob would try to wax his sick ass just to get on the six o'clock news and all this would make the meaning of the original crime kinda get lost in the noise. Dontcha think?flanum wrote:There isnt an emoticon to express my response! i take it that that was some mild form of sarcasm?
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djm wrote:Perhaps you have difficulty communicating your feelings? I think that if this guy had lived he would have gotten either a slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence or a life-time nuthouse prescription but either way in three or four years, someone would get him to write a book about it and everyone would be horrified that he wrote a book about it but everyone would buy the book too and he would get quite rich from it and become a bit of a minor celebrity showing up on talk shows and university lecture tours and maybe get his photo taken with Bono or somebody famous and everyone would pay lip-service to how horrible what he did was but they'd still pay a load o' cash to go and see him and hear him speak and of course all the big American networks would want to have him on cuz they gotta keep them ratings up and eventually some other nutjob would try to wax his sick ass just to get on the six o'clock news and all this would make the meaning of the original crime kinda get lost in the noise. Dontcha think?flanum wrote:There isnt an emoticon to express my response! i take it that that was some mild form of sarcasm?
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The horror of it all was probably what drove him to throw himself under the train.
I'm glad she was able to get out, and I wonder if this sort of thing doesn't happen more often than we think.
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There's a lot of sick, sick people out there. It's stories like this that make it difficult for me to keep my faith in humanity from being a negative number, if it could be expressed numerically.
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Sorry, but I doubt it. The fact that she had escaped, and that he was about to be nicked would, I suspect, have been the more likely reason for him to choose the quick way out. Isn't capturing and enslaving someone to your will a sort of "quick way out" versus having to deal with another person in a real, caring, equal relationship?Lambchop wrote:The horror of it all was probably what drove him to throw himself under the train.
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I'm trying to square the above with the post to which flanum's quote was directed in response, speaking of things getting "lost in the noise".djm wrote:Perhaps you have difficulty communicating your feelings? I think that if this guy had lived he would have gotten either a slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence or a life-time nuthouse prescription but either way in three or four years, someone would get him to write a book about it and everyone would be horrified that he wrote a book about it but everyone would buy the book too and he would get quite rich from it and become a bit of a minor celebrity showing up on talk shows and university lecture tours and maybe get his photo taken with Bono or somebody famous and everyone would pay lip-service to how horrible what he did was but they'd still pay a load o' cash to go and see him and hear him speak and of course all the big American networks would want to have him on cuz they gotta keep them ratings up and eventually some other nutjob would try to wax his sick ass just to get on the six o'clock news and all this would make the meaning of the original crime kinda get lost in the noise. Dontcha think?flanum wrote:There isnt an emoticon to express my response! i take it that that was some mild form of sarcasm?
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There are very few truly "sick" people committing these crimes; 95% know exactly what they are doing.Cofaidh wrote:There's a lot of sick, sick people out there. It's stories like this that make it difficult for me to keep my faith in humanity from being a negative number, if it could be expressed numerically.
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