What do you make of this ???

Jack Bradshaw · Post by **Jack Bradshaw** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:54 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/techn ... ?th&emc=th

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:24 am

Sadly, this has been going on for several years now, with regards to tablature. The music industry execs are so f'n greedy, don't even get me started, what with the price of CD's (and how little they cost to manufacture), plus the ridiculous price of concert tickets, and on and on....

Free sharing of privately transcribed music notation is not a crime - what's next, your local guitar teacher can't teach you to play "Smoke on the Water" or "Stairway to heaven" based on him having learned it by ear and then teaching you? Heaven forbid he should write down the chords and lead lines for you. Hey, guess what, you can't even learn by ear any more, gotta buy a book of notation, and even then, don't even cthink about playing a copyrighted tune in your livingroom for your girlfriend Johhny, you might get something tangible from the transaction and then the man is going to sue your ass.

What a bunch of crap. Hey Bono, where the F are you now buddy??? What, we haven't made you freakin' rich enough yet?

Bite Me.

Loren

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:41 am

Yeah. Weasels, all of 'em.

That's why the big record companies won't touch trad folk music, no copyright to milk for every penny they can screw out of the public.

Oh, and don't be singing 'Happy Birthday' to anyone in public, that's copyright too y'know. You've got to pay to sing that song.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:42 am

Jack Bradshaw wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/techn ... ?th&emc=th

I don't think it's anything new...sounds like the history of fake books (and "the Real Book") taken to the internet. Publishers have always wanted to get their dollar every time someone gets a copy of sheet music. Musicians have always wanted to share sheet music cheaply/freely.

The musicians have generally won so far. Maybe not in court, where most musicians can't afford to fight, but on the street, where it generally matters most anyway.

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:46 am

GaryKelly wrote:Yeah. Weasels, all of 'em.

That's why the big record companies won't touch trad folk music, no copyright to milk for every penny they can screw out of the public.

Exactly why we end up having such formulaic drivel, from cardboard cut-outs, pushed on us constantly.

Snakes on a plane ain't scary at all, Record Execs on plane, now THAT's scary!

Loren

crookedtune · Post by **crookedtune** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:42 am

....and don't think you're flying under the radar when you just play the tunes through in your mind. That still constitutes product-usage, and the meter is running. No free lunch here, buddy!

fearfaoin · Post by **fearfaoin** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:49 am

I can't believe it's taken so long for nytimes to catch on! The RIAA
all but shut down OLGA.net back in the 90's. I think it's time to go
back to USENET groups like alt.guitar.tabs.bite.me.RIAA, which are
decentralized and harder to sue.

P.S.: Oops, looks like OLGA's gotten a cease and desist again... crap.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:13 am

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side."
-Hunter S. Thompson

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:29 am

Great quote.

Loren

Unseen122 · Post by **Unseen122** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:11 pm

Loren wrote:

Snakes on a plane ain't scary at all, Record Execs on plane, now THAT's scary!

Loren

Seriously is there much difference between Record execs and Snakes?

crookedtune · Post by **crookedtune** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:54 am

Unseen122 wrote:
Loren wrote:

Snakes on a plane ain't scary at all, Record Execs on plane, now THAT's scary!

Loren
Seriously is there much difference between Record execs and Snakes?

Snakes aren't slimy.

Wormdiet · Post by **Wormdiet** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:10 am

Brian wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side."
-Hunter S. Thompson

Exactly what I was thinking. I while ago I googled this, trying to find some more info. Apparently Thompson never actually said "and there's a negative side" except in the minds of his fans - there's no record of it. But whoever came up with it is a genius.

But yes, the corporate gestapo have found some more victims.

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:10 am

So ABC's must be for the chop too... Mr Norbek will be dragged away in chains never to be seen again, armed police will raid The Session head quarters!

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:16 am

treeshark wrote:So ABC's must be for the chop too... Mr Norbek will be dragged away in chains never to be seen again, armed police will raid The Session head quarters!

Only if they're ABCs of copyright works. The traditional stuff is quite safe I reckon.

mutepointe · Post by **mutepointe** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:15 am

GaryKelly wrote:Yeah. Weasels, all of 'em.

Oh, and don't be singing 'Happy Birthday' to anyone in public, that's copyright too y'know. You've got to pay to sing that song.

dear gary: your age is showing. happy birthday has been in the public domain for a few years now. here's a link http://www.martymethod.com/Happybirthday.htm

i've sure copied my fair share of music and spent countless hours at these websites. i can see where folks would consider this stealing. too bad everything in life that we want isn't free. if it were, i'd own a rockin' yacht.

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