Loud Bb whistle?

Flogging Jason · Post by **Flogging Jason** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:16 pm

I perform on the street and I find that my Susato Bflat has plenty of volume to get the job done. My Waltons D is also loud too but mostly in the upper registers. I just got an Overton LowD that I can't wait to bring to the street! The only guff i have with the susato is that it doesn't have the metallic tone you get with (obviously) metal whistles. My overton Low D has lots of volume so I would imagine their Bflat(if they make one) would be comparable.

dfernandez77 · Post by **dfernandez77** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:44 pm

I would suggest you check out a Reyburn. They are loud relative to others when normally voiced, but you can also ask Ronaldo to bump up the volume even more when he voices your whistle.

Here's a link to pics and a rreview of a Reyburn Bb:
http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?t=38421

brianholton · Post by **brianholton** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:11 am

The Alba Bb has a rich breathy tone and carries very well: I'm sure it would be loud enough for you. That's my current favourite Bb, though I'm waiting for a Burke right now.

bh

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:36 am

Overtons and Chieftains in the higher keys are about as loud as they come in my experience, particularly if you get one with high back-pressure.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:29 pm

Thanks. I played a Chieftain Bb in a store. It had a lovely tone,
I thought, but it wasn't very loud. I've never played an
Overton Bb, to my sorrow. I've read (maybe Dales' review)
that some feel it's the best Overton key.

I've played an Overton low D on the street but it didn't
carry--not it's fault. I don't think low D whistles are
cut out for the street. Flutes do better.

I'm interested in the Burke Bb and so I read with interest
the post about these. Might be a good way to go.

Thanks to all.

Easily_Deluded_Fool · Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:36 pm

brianholton wrote:The Alba Bb has a rich breathy tone and carries very well: I'm sure it would be loud enough for you. That's my current favourite Bb, snip

Seconded!

My Sop' Alba Bb is easily as loud as my Chieftain Sop' D,
which is prolly the loudest make of whistle on planet Earth.
It is a couple of years old though, and I think Stacey may
have made alterations to the new ones.

dfernandez77 · Post by **dfernandez77** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:05 pm

jim stone wrote:I'm interested in the Burke Bb and so I read with interest
the post about these. Might be a good way to go.

Thanks to all.

In my experience, from loudest (good solid presence) to quietest amongst the group, descending:
1. Copeland
2. Reyburn
3. Overton
4. Burke
5. Chieftain

All of the top 3 you can request custom voicing as well. Don't know about the last two.

I.D.10-t · Post by **I.D.10-t** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:38 pm

When buying high end, I would hope that it is just not what the factory makes, but perhaps, one of the makers would make a more high back pressure, low wind, loud whistle. I think that talking to makers would sort out the best.

I wonder if what is perceived as loud necessarily carries the best. I have heard about pure sounding instruments that did not seem loud, but could be heard well.

Sorry I have no practical whistle knowledge.

Edited to remove random capital letters.

dfernandez77 · Post by **dfernandez77** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:34 pm

I.D.10-t wrote:I wonder if what is perceived as loud necessarily carries the best. I have heard about Pure sounding instruments that did not seem loud, but could be heard well.

Yup! That's what I mean by presence. You don't want obnoxious volume - you want a voice that both has presence and is appreciated.

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:05 am

Butterfly wrote:I have a Burke brass B flat, but it's not loud at all. Now what about a Syn B flat? Anyone out there who has one and can tell something about it?

I have a Syn Bb - lancewood head and aluminium body.
I don't think you would call it loud though its stronger in the low octave than a gen IMO.

It is a sweet rich thing and works well for stage with mike
and holds its own with soft, refined instruments like sitar.

I would not take it busking unless I were to be in a tunnel (subway).

picardy third · Post by **picardy third** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:50 am

Jim,

I've been racking my brain and checked my old PM's but can't find anything. I think it was you who gave me a few years ago an old style Susato D and B-flat. I think you had sold me a Sindt D and threw in the other 2 because you such a nice guy.

According to legend, you liked the sound of the B-flat (it is a nice sounding B-flat despite being a Susato!) but didn't play it much.

Does any of this ring a bell? Do you recall the B-flat you gave me? I wouldn't call it a loud B-flat, but again it is an old style (I think mid-90's).

P3

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:10 am

picardy third wrote:Jim,

I've been racking my brain and checked my old PM's but can't find anything. I think it was you who gave me a few years ago an old style Susato D and B-flat. I think you had sold me a Sindt D and threw in the other 2 because you such a nice guy.

According to legend, you liked the sound of the B-flat (it is a nice sounding B-flat despite being a Susato!) but didn't play it much.

Does any of this ring a bell? Do you recall the B-flat you gave me? I wouldn't call it a loud B-flat, but again it is an old style (I think mid-90's).

P3

It's possible. I have, at some point owned and parted with
the instruments you mention. Maybe the Bb had a white tube?

My chief doubt is that I'm not that nice a person.

picardy third · Post by **picardy third** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:51 am

Yeah. The Susatos where white tubes. One has a brown fipple and the other has a maroon fipple (have no idea which goes with which tube since they both fit and sound good). They're the only Susatos I own (besides an E-flat I can't stand! Now that is a loud, obnoxious whistle!)

Sorry, the first impression is the lasting one.

Scott McCallister · Post by **Scott McCallister** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:38 pm

I'll second (or maybe 7th) what people are saying about the Susatos. Especially the Medium Bore types that work so well in this key.

Really nice!

matahari_1946 · Post by **matahari_1946** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:47 pm

I know this is really late, but I have a Mack Hoover brass Bb that is loud and doesn't require a lot of air. I love my Hoover!

~Tiff