Sweetheart Low D
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Sweetheart Low D
I've been loaned a Sweetheart Low D.
I've not been able to name a favorite Low D whistle over the years. I love the muscular complexity of the Overton, the purity of the Burke, the flute-like Copeland.
That said, this may be the finest Low D I've ever played.
Dale
I've not been able to name a favorite Low D whistle over the years. I love the muscular complexity of the Overton, the purity of the Burke, the flute-like Copeland.
That said, this may be the finest Low D I've ever played.
Dale
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Wow, that's one hell of a rap coming from you ...DaleWisely wrote:Hm. I'd say .... adjective-defying.Mitch wrote:Hi Dale,
So how would you describe it - Muscular, Pure, Flute-like, Mischevious, Lustful, Authoritative, Delicious ...?
Sort of authoritively, muscularly pure in a complex and transparently mysterious sort of way.
hmmm ... has anyone actually done any quantified comparative analysis of this stuff (apart from Wanderer's excellent review page - among others) ??
For example, I ran a couple of clips from someone's comparative post through a spectrum analysis on Cool pro (Clark and a Tully I think it was) Turned-up some very obvious differnces, particularly in the high-order harmonics ...
Perhapse establishing a set of standards and benchmarks might be of value to some folks, then again, why upset the mystery.
I think I'm about due for a labour-of-love ...
Opinions?
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I was also thinking of a test for loudness. Reviewers work really hard to qualify loudness by comparison to other whistles, but there are enough concrete-sequential sciencey types aroud that we might be able to find a standard. This would, of course, be in addition to the poetic elegance of our usual reviews.
I was thinking of a Radio Shack digital SPL meter, A weight scale, 10 feet distant, in a large room, making as close to hemispherical radiance as possible. The el-cheapo ($60 Canadian) spl meter is widely available, and pretty accurate.
We could pick a test jig where the a-section is in the 1st octave, and the b-section goes up to A or B, then provide figures for both.
Is this getting too persnickity?
I was thinking of a Radio Shack digital SPL meter, A weight scale, 10 feet distant, in a large room, making as close to hemispherical radiance as possible. The el-cheapo ($60 Canadian) spl meter is widely available, and pretty accurate.
We could pick a test jig where the a-section is in the 1st octave, and the b-section goes up to A or B, then provide figures for both.
Is this getting too persnickity?
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Loudness is a very relative thing. I ran all my soprano D's through this test, and found that the one I considered mellowest and not at all loud was by far my loudest by the meter. Loud appears to be as much a factor of 'pure' as it is of volume.
Glad Dale likes that Low D!
Tyg
Glad Dale likes that Low D!
Tyg
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I've done that with several whistles as a means of comparing methods of "muffling" them. I'll publish the results sometime. Obviously, how you play the whistle has a big effect on how loud it is. But one thing which is interesting from such a comparison is octave balance.Chiffed wrote:I was thinking of a Radio Shack digital SPL meter, A weight scale, 10 feet distant, in a large room, making as close to hemispherical radiance as possible.
I don't know if it's particularly instructive in terms of choosing which whistle to buy, though. One thing which might be nice is a standardized set of adjectives for timbre. But sound recordings and hearing live performance are, in the end, the most informative things for me.
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Hey, I have this vision of a Cat scan.... i.e. does the cat stays in the room or runs away... then if he does, how far he goes would give a measure of loudness....
Kidding appart, even when I record using dual mics, it isn't unual that some of the high notes have a higher db level from the mic channel that is further away from the source (the two mics are the same). It seems that high notes propagation and perception is a complex phenomenon. I also find that two recordings at the same db level, one with a Low D, and the other with a High D, that the Low D sounds (to my ear) louder... go figure...
Kidding appart, even when I record using dual mics, it isn't unual that some of the high notes have a higher db level from the mic channel that is further away from the source (the two mics are the same). It seems that high notes propagation and perception is a complex phenomenon. I also find that two recordings at the same db level, one with a Low D, and the other with a High D, that the Low D sounds (to my ear) louder... go figure...
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Sorry to dredge up a really old thread, but I haven't been able to find a "real" review of this intriguing whistle yet --- and no mp3 files anywhere. I think Tygress may have said Walt Sweet was going to post a clip at www.sweetheartflute.com , but there's nothing there yet. Any Sweetheart low-D players want to post your impressions, and maybe a soundclip?
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I really really wish I could post a clip right now, but the fact is -- in a fit of generosity I sold my whistle, knowing that I would be able to replace it as soon as a new batch was made. As soon as they're done I'll claim my replacement, and we'll get clips on the Sweetheart Flute site.crookedtune wrote:Sorry to dredge up a really old thread, but I haven't been able to find a "real" review of this intriguing whistle yet --- and no mp3 files anywhere. I think Tygress may have said Walt Sweet was going to post a clip at www.sweetheartflute.com , but there's nothing there yet. Any Sweetheart low-D players want to post your impressions, and maybe a soundclip?
Sincerely,
Tyg (who may never have a fit of generosity again in re: whistles at least!)
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Here's a thorough review, but no mp3: http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?t=29952crookedtune wrote:Sorry to dredge up a really old thread, but I haven't been able to find a "real" review of this intriguing whistle yet --- and no mp3 files anywhere. I think Tygress may have said Walt Sweet was going to post a clip at www.sweetheartflute.com , but there's nothing there yet. Any Sweetheart low-D players want to post your impressions, and maybe a soundclip?
Someday, someone will come forward with a good sound clip.
Keith