Oh, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who missed it. My dad went in the hospital last week so I haven't been paying much attention to the boards. Drat, I don't usually participate, but I love to watch a mess unfold....Lambchop wrote:Oh, my! I MISSED ALL THIS????? When? What happened?
Jim says it all, Dale. Fret no more...until the next time of course...jim stone wrote:No sane individual would do this for free.
On the other hand no crazy individual could
do it so well. Tis a puzzlement.
You've always had very strong opinions about commercial posts, Loren, and I respect them. And, right you are, you're not the only one irritated by the ones who find clever ways around the rules.Loren wrote:Personally, I'd prefer more moderation from here on out, rather than the same, or less. Some might think that's odd, coming from me, (at least those who've known me around here for the last 8 years or so), so let me explain:
Just about the only things that makes me lose my cool here these days are A) when I do extensive self editing to keep my posts civilized (often not posting at all to do so), only to have some other joker get away with taking digs (often quite sugar coated, but insults none the less), and getting away with, and B) When some people are allowed to consistently break or bend the rules that others consistently follow. A good example is the commercial posting rules, which one or more people consitently ignore, or find a way "around". I know darn well I'm not the only one irritated by this.
I hate to say it Dale, because I know you already go above and beyond, but you are correct, this forum is past the small community, warm and fuzzy phase, and thus requires significant, and even handed moderation from here on out. It also has reached a point where a classified section is called for - see the classified section on www.mandolincafe.com for one that works quite well - and a hard line requiring commercial posters to stick to the rules.
Obviously more moderators are needed to ease your burden in this respect (and no, I'm not suggestion I be one.) Again, a good working example is mando cafe, where there are specific moderators for specific forums, a model that works quite well.
I realize that I will have to tell you all of this another dozen times over the next several years before you come around to my view point on these issues Dale, but hey, how long did I have to lobby for the pub?
Loren
Fair enough. I'm about to become a commercial poster myself, so let's just see how well I learn to play the gameDale wrote:You've always had very strong opinions about commercial posts, Loren, and I respect them. And, right you are, you're not the only one irritated by the ones who find clever ways around the rules.
But, I do think you represent one end of the spectrum of views about this. I do hear from people who think that some of the information they get from posts that are somewhat commercial is worthwhile.
You're prerogative, of course, however I suggest that at least some sort of pulic notice is given, so that folks know and understand where the boundaries are, since "civility" is not so easily codified in a FAQ.Dale wrote: P.S. I think we are going to have to have new policy that says that moderators are not going to explain their actions to those who have been moderated. I'm not sure, but I suspect more of my time is taken up with dealing with the aftermath of moderator acts that the moderation proper. You know, "what happened to that thread?" That kind of thing.
A corollary to this is, you should probably delete about 50-80% of all the posts you start.Dale wrote: At this point, I can only offer a few suggestions. . .
2. I suggest people be a bit less impulsive about posting. Give your idea a second/minute/hour to breathe a bit.
I didn't really get all that, could you please run that by me again??Loren wrote:Personally, I'd prefer more moderation from here on out, rather than the same, or less. Some might think that's odd, coming from me, (at least those who've known me around here for the last 8 years or so). . .
I realize that I will have to tell you all of this another dozen times over the next several years
Do it! Do it!Loren wrote:Fair enough. I'm about to become a commercial poster myself, so let's just see how well I learn to play the gameDale wrote:You've always had very strong opinions about commercial posts, Loren, and I respect them. And, right you are, you're not the only one irritated by the ones who find clever ways around the rules.
But, I do think you represent one end of the spectrum of views about this. I do hear from people who think that some of the information they get from posts that are somewhat commercial is worthwhile.
Loren
Purging................chas wrote:A corollary to this is, you should probably delete about 50-80% of all the posts you start.Dale wrote: At this point, I can only offer a few suggestions. . .
2. I suggest people be a bit less impulsive about posting. Give your idea a second/minute/hour to breathe a bit.
I think everything you missed here has been deleted whereas parts of life that one misses are not and will always haunt one as a presence one ignored ......cowtime wrote:Oh well, I've missed it all too. That just goes to show that something always happens when I get to involved with regular living stuff.
