Drone reeds w/ Brass tongues......

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:52 am

I made up some brass drone reeds with brass tongues lastnight. I'm surprised at how good these reeds work compared to styrene tongues. Do any of you guys/gals use drone reeds with brass tongues? How do you like them or don't like them?

Marcelo Muttis · Post by **Marcelo Muttis** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:07 am

Hi doogie, Would you mind to tell me how did you made them?
I imagine that you forged them, but jus tell me in three steps the whole process, ´cause I wanna make some for my smallpipes.
Thanks

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:12 am

Marcelo Muttis wrote:Hi doogie, Would you mind to tell me how did you made them?
I imagine that you forged them, but jus tell me in three steps the whole process, ´cause I wanna make some for my smallpipes.
Thanks

Hey Marcelo, wild looking brass chanter on your website.

I got the idea from http://www.songsea.com/syndronestopvalveplans.html
but didn't use a tuning slide so I made the body a little longer. I used .10 brass tongue. I tried .16, and .12 first and they were too stought... Seth

Marcelo Muttis · Post by **Marcelo Muttis** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:18 am

I´ll send you a pic of my UP practice set then.
Thanks

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:44 am

Sound's good, post it on the forum

liestman · Post by **liestman** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:19 pm

Doogie wrote:I made up some brass drone reeds with brass tongues lastnight. I'm surprised at how good these reeds work compared to styrene tongues.

When you say how good they work, do you mean they sound better or are more stable or ??? I have heard these in lots of types of pipes (NSP, SSP, uilleann) but the ones I have heard have always been a bit too loud and, well, clangy sounding, if that makes sense, and they were the same stability (i.e. very stable) as styrene.

Just curious about the specifics of them compared to the styrene reeds you have made before.

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm

liestman wrote:
Doogie wrote:I made up some brass drone reeds with brass tongues lastnight. I'm surprised at how good these reeds work compared to styrene tongues.
When you say how good they work, do you mean they sound better or are more stable or ??? I have heard these in lots of types of pipes (NSP, SSP, uilleann) but the ones I have heard have always been a bit too loud and, well, clangy sounding, if that makes sense, and they were the same stability (i.e. very stable) as styrene.

Just curious about the specifics of them compared to the styrene reeds you have made before.

It's the first time I've ever used brass tongues on a drone reed. Not to say they are any better than styrene. I was just impressed at how good they work being metal and all. They seem very stable in both octaves and don't seem to clap shut like styrene tongues sometimes do. IMHO when you arch the tongue the metal holds its curve better and stays that way. I do have a set of brass tongue smallpipe reeds made by some guy in Tyler Texas and found those to be as you described. Seth

Marcelo Muttis · Post by **Marcelo Muttis** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:17 am

Doogie, my D Pracitce set si posted at "Pictures of your pipes" thread

tommykleen · Post by **tommykleen** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:09 am

I had a styrene tongue on a cane body that I eventually bent. I replaced it with a phosphore bronze tongue. It has worked ok for the last 6 months or so.

This is on a bass drone btw

t

WireHarp · Post by **WireHarp** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:41 pm

Doogie,

How did you attach the tongues? I have toyed with the idea of using brass, but recall reading that they tend to tear up O-rings.

Robert Mouland
www.wireharp.com

myrddinemrys · Post by **myrddinemrys** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:05 pm

hmm, should try it sometime . . .

Right now I'm in the middle of a recording project, so I don't have time to fiddle around with pipe innards.

fel bautista · Post by **fel bautista** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:26 am

tommykleen wrote:I had a styrene tongue on a cane body that I eventually bent. I replaced it with a phosphore bronze tongue. It has worked ok for the last 6 months or so.

This is on a bass drone btw

t

Tom- how thick was the brass tongue?? I have a spare "dead" bass reed I could experiment with

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:01 am

WireHarp wrote:Doogie,

How did you attach the tongues? I have toyed with the idea of using brass, but recall reading that they tend to tear up O-rings.

Robert Mouland
www.wireharp.com

I use dental rubberbands as a bridle, and attach the tongue with waxed hemp..

Mike Hulme · Post by **Mike Hulme** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:08 am

Another good way is to use shrink wrap tubing from Radio Shack.

tommykleen · Post by **tommykleen** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:34 pm

fel bautista wrote:
tommykleen wrote:I had a styrene tongue on a cane body that I eventually bent. I replaced it with a phosphore bronze tongue. It has worked ok for the last 6 months or so.

This is on a bass drone btw

t
Tom- how thick was the brass tongue?? I have a spare "dead" bass reed I could experiment with

I got the bronze in quantity (for making reg reeds) from David Quinn some years ago. I cannot recall the gauge of the bronze, as I am not good with numbers (my mother was frightened by an abacus while carrying me).

t

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