Yes, the original english hornpipe was in 3/2. This is a major reason why the form is not the same.Jonathan wrote:The tunes are different sure but the form is the same. After all this form of tune was introduced by English musicians and somewhere along the line became part of the tradition.s1m0n wrote:English hornpipes are not the same as Irish Hornpipes.
Totally unrelated to the above, but I read an interesting tidbit somewhere (may have be Gearoid O'hAllmhurain's Pocket Guide to Irish Music but not sure) stating that an earlier form of English hornpipe was actually in 3/2 or some such instead of 2/4 (notated 4/4 :-? ) as we know them today.
Is Sailor's Hornpipe (Popeye theme) really a hornpipe?
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Sailor's Hornpipe is a hornpipe. Would you play it as a reel?
Jonathan, check out O'Neill's for a hefty amount of hornpipes with a 2/4 time signature. Don't be so quick to dismiss your assessments. You might surprise yourself...
If you would like to be further confused, please do visit here:
http://mmcconeghy.com/RIMUSIC/hornpipe.htm
Jonathan, check out O'Neill's for a hefty amount of hornpipes with a 2/4 time signature. Don't be so quick to dismiss your assessments. You might surprise yourself...
If you would like to be further confused, please do visit here:
http://mmcconeghy.com/RIMUSIC/hornpipe.htm
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the humours of tullycrine is a actually a hornpipe, but on this cd:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a ... tyle=music
they play it as a reel is played. I really love the way they play it, it's how I try to play it as well.
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a ... tyle=music
they play it as a reel is played. I really love the way they play it, it's how I try to play it as well.
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Yes, on Callan Bridge, Tullycrine (as it is known to those who play it often ) is played as a slow reel would be played.
Danu plays the hornpipe Peacock's Feather as a fast reel.
However, I tend to think that this does not diminish the fact or sur-fact that although a hornpipe is played as another tune rhythm that it makes it no less a hornpipe. Perhaps an interpretive hornpipe?
Sometimes, especially when learning by ear or from others, we learn a tune that we later find is actually a hornpipe, but that you learned it as a reel or vice versa. I don't think a clear line of definition exists.
It just may be another example of making the music their/our own.
Danu plays the hornpipe Peacock's Feather as a fast reel.
However, I tend to think that this does not diminish the fact or sur-fact that although a hornpipe is played as another tune rhythm that it makes it no less a hornpipe. Perhaps an interpretive hornpipe?
Sometimes, especially when learning by ear or from others, we learn a tune that we later find is actually a hornpipe, but that you learned it as a reel or vice versa. I don't think a clear line of definition exists.
It just may be another example of making the music their/our own.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...
As long as there is no international regulatory body tightly governing the composition of the world's traditional music, people are just going to continue to break the rules. They're going to keep writing non-swingy, reel-sounding hornpipes and doing whatever the heck else they want, as if there weren't an exactly right and wrong way to do it. What is the world coming to??!?
As long as there is no international regulatory body tightly governing the composition of the world's traditional music, people are just going to continue to break the rules. They're going to keep writing non-swingy, reel-sounding hornpipes and doing whatever the heck else they want, as if there weren't an exactly right and wrong way to do it. What is the world coming to??!?
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dlovrien wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...
As long as there is no international regulatory body tightly governing the composition of the world's traditional music, people are just going to continue to break the rules. They're going to keep writing non-swingy, reel-sounding hornpipes and doing whatever the heck else they want, as if there weren't an exactly right and wrong way to do it. What is the world coming to??!?
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Is this really true? Is a hornpipe not a hornpipe because it's played in that jumpy way? I mean, if t.h.o.tullycrine was always played as on Callan Brigde, wouldn't it simply be a Reel, and not a Hornpipe?RedFox wrote:Yes, on Callan Bridge, Tullycrine (as it is known to those who play it often ) is played as a slow reel would be played.
Danu plays the hornpipe Peacock's Feather as a fast reel.
However, I tend to think that this does not diminish the fact or sur-fact that although a hornpipe is played as another tune rhythm that it makes it no less a hornpipe. Perhaps an interpretive hornpipe?
Sometimes, especially when learning by ear or from others, we learn a tune that we later find is actually a hornpipe, but that you learned it as a reel or vice versa. I don't think a clear line of definition exists.
It just may be another example of making the music their/our own.