I don't want to play the blues that much. I'll settle for listening to my husband practice those eight bar blues endlessly until I'm gritting my teeth. Then I'll join in.n4vgm wrote:To know the blues you got to live the blues, so send me all your money, quit your job, leave your spouse and live in some rat hole. THEN you'll be able to play the blues.
Bob Z.
Is this crazy?
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I'm kinda with Bobz on this one;
When I was a kid (i can only just remember that) I would jam with some friends who owned guitars - I had only my trusty recorder in C so we jammed A minor. The recorder sounded awful. It sounded totally awful if some of the notes got played. I decided to find out why. This was the beginning of a kind of crazyness that resulted in a lifetime search for the blues. What I know so far is that; blues is a musical expression of an individual expressing that individual's feelings in that instant. To me that's the true purpose of music. The musician's cultural setting will colour the range of expression available to the musician and, to a great extent, the percieved emotional message.
We employ simple rule-sets to allow the quickest entry into expression - scales, rules of harmony, rhythm etc. For feelings - the simpler the better. Which is why the pentatonic minor blues scale can be useful. The scale indicated by the link above is a very good place to start - it gets the scale on a whistle with a minimum of offensive by-notes.
Pentatonic blues scale works like this:
1 = Root note,
2 = root note + 3 semitones (one and a half tones interval up),
3 = 2 + 2 semitones (one tone up),
4 = 3 + 2 semitones (one tone up),
5 = 4 + 3 semitones.
Octave = 5 + 2, etc etc
On a C whistle this can be achieved by starting on D, E, or A (dorian, phrygian and aeolean modes).
If you start on E-flat the scale would simply be all the black notes as seen on a piano.
Here's some more handy rules for some common figures we associate with the blues;
1. pitch bends work well into and out of the whole tone intervals,
2. pitch bends should not exceed a whole tone,
3. on chromatic instruments the whole intervals can be bridged by the intervening semitone as an ornament, but should never be stressed.
4. a sharpened 2nd note yields the major third in the root harmony - this is often used as a kind of ornament - it breaks rule 1 but it adds a signature colour and bridges the harmony from minor to major - blues as we know it often carries a major/minor ambiguity - this ambiguity can be extensively exploited to add nuance to the feeling expressed.
5. as in all music, the expression often relies more on how you break the rules than on how you adhere to the rules - so break the rules whenever you feel like it.
6. the pentatonic minor scale becomes major if you use note 2 as the root.
I hope all my years with no money, unemployed and living in rat-holes has yielded some value to the subject.
When I was a kid (i can only just remember that) I would jam with some friends who owned guitars - I had only my trusty recorder in C so we jammed A minor. The recorder sounded awful. It sounded totally awful if some of the notes got played. I decided to find out why. This was the beginning of a kind of crazyness that resulted in a lifetime search for the blues. What I know so far is that; blues is a musical expression of an individual expressing that individual's feelings in that instant. To me that's the true purpose of music. The musician's cultural setting will colour the range of expression available to the musician and, to a great extent, the percieved emotional message.
We employ simple rule-sets to allow the quickest entry into expression - scales, rules of harmony, rhythm etc. For feelings - the simpler the better. Which is why the pentatonic minor blues scale can be useful. The scale indicated by the link above is a very good place to start - it gets the scale on a whistle with a minimum of offensive by-notes.
Pentatonic blues scale works like this:
1 = Root note,
2 = root note + 3 semitones (one and a half tones interval up),
3 = 2 + 2 semitones (one tone up),
4 = 3 + 2 semitones (one tone up),
5 = 4 + 3 semitones.
Octave = 5 + 2, etc etc
On a C whistle this can be achieved by starting on D, E, or A (dorian, phrygian and aeolean modes).
If you start on E-flat the scale would simply be all the black notes as seen on a piano.
Here's some more handy rules for some common figures we associate with the blues;
1. pitch bends work well into and out of the whole tone intervals,
2. pitch bends should not exceed a whole tone,
3. on chromatic instruments the whole intervals can be bridged by the intervening semitone as an ornament, but should never be stressed.
4. a sharpened 2nd note yields the major third in the root harmony - this is often used as a kind of ornament - it breaks rule 1 but it adds a signature colour and bridges the harmony from minor to major - blues as we know it often carries a major/minor ambiguity - this ambiguity can be extensively exploited to add nuance to the feeling expressed.
5. as in all music, the expression often relies more on how you break the rules than on how you adhere to the rules - so break the rules whenever you feel like it.
6. the pentatonic minor scale becomes major if you use note 2 as the root.
I hope all my years with no money, unemployed and living in rat-holes has yielded some value to the subject.
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Oh, I forgot. If you own a computer and can afford the internet you're way too affuent to understand the blues. But in the interest of musical diversity I offer some topics for modern / suburban blues songs. All begin with the musical phrase Duh Dah Duh Dump.
"My Beemer needs an A/C unit"
"My daughter's boyfriend has tatoos"
"My wife ran off with my stock broker"
"My husband ran off with my Avon Rep"
"You love that computer more than me"
Bob Z.
"My Beemer needs an A/C unit"
"My daughter's boyfriend has tatoos"
"My wife ran off with my stock broker"
"My husband ran off with my Avon Rep"
"You love that computer more than me"
Bob Z.
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To quote "Bleeding Gums" Murphy for the 2nd time in one day...n4vgm wrote:Oh, I forgot. If you own a computer and can afford the internet you're way too affuent to understand the blues. But in the interest of musical diversity I offer some topics for modern / suburban blues songs. All begin with the musical phrase Duh Dah Duh Dump.
Bob Z.
"You play pretty good for someone with no real problems"
"Music is a fire in your belly that comes out of your mouth, so you better stick an instrument in front of it." -Bleeding Gums Murphy
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To play something like country blues or countrified city blues is no problem. As others have observed, the pentatonic blues scale is easy to get on a whistle pitched a whole step down from the key you are playing in. Whistles can easily be made to wail too. BTW, on a D whistle you can play blues in A as well as E fairly easily—which is the best whsitle to choose for a given key depends on which notes you need.
Certain styles of blues employ scales with lots of fairly chromatic passages. More jazz inflected blues or T-Bone Walker style blues employs, as well as the more common notes in the blues scale, a lot of flattened fifths and major as well as minor thirds. These can be got by half holing but it takes a lot of practice to do a fsst and clean chromatic run from say minor third up to fifth.
I've used whistle in blues, relatively folky jazz contexts and a variety of rock contexts. I've used it on recordings, sometimes just in the background but sometimes in more prominent parts. It often works very well.
Certain styles of blues employ scales with lots of fairly chromatic passages. More jazz inflected blues or T-Bone Walker style blues employs, as well as the more common notes in the blues scale, a lot of flattened fifths and major as well as minor thirds. These can be got by half holing but it takes a lot of practice to do a fsst and clean chromatic run from say minor third up to fifth.
I've used whistle in blues, relatively folky jazz contexts and a variety of rock contexts. I've used it on recordings, sometimes just in the background but sometimes in more prominent parts. It often works very well.
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That's The Commitments Mitch. But I think that remark was meant to be a joke. Well it was, wasn't it?Mitch wrote:Heh - this whole blues thing on a whistle-board is sooo cool.
I mean, i'm neither Irish nor African, but there's something in all that music that lifts me up and makes me want to play it.
What was that movie where the Irish guy was saying - "the oirish are the blacks of europe"?
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Well, the character in the movie basically was supposed to believe it.Wombat wrote:That's The Commitments Mitch. But I think that remark was meant to be a joke. Well it was, wasn't it?
He also had the band repeat "I'm Black and I'm proud" over and over. Sounds a little strange with an Irish accent.
Great movie, and great music. I think I'll add it to my Netflix queue.
Daniel
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