Victrola.....slanguage!

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:03 pm

Google is not a great help, to many variations on a theme.
In the vernacular of teenage kids...white, smart and reasonably well brought up..what is this Victrola remark.

It does not exist over here on this side of the great divide and it is killing me.

My remarks about white,smart and reasonably well brought up are not meant to be offensive..those who take them offensively are on their own here.It is a simple question about the development of modern slang..and Victrolas.

Gimme a hint here...

Slan,
D.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:07 pm

Well, Dub...to be sure, I did run this by my 15 and 17 year old girls. And they haven't encountered it. Perhaps it is limited to a particular part of the country. Often things start in the west and migrate this direction.

fearfaoin · Post by **fearfaoin** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:09 pm

dubhlinn wrote: It does not exist over here on this side of the great divide and it is killing me.

Then where did you hear it? Because I'm lost. I'm still not sure exactly
what slang phrase you're trying to get info about...

Congratulations · Post by **Congratulations** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:10 pm

I'm 18 and I live on the east coast, and I'm unfamiliar.

Also, www.urbandictionary.com has no entry for victrola.

missy · Post by **missy** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:14 pm

never heard it.

SteveK · Post by **SteveK** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:17 pm

It was a joke. There were some messages about words which had originally been specific to one brand of item but which had come to be applied to a whole class. A Victrola was originally a specific make of 78 rpm record player but for a fairly long time it was applied to any 78 rpm record players- not that there were any other speeds in those days. Walden said that the same had happened with Gramophone in England but I'm not familiar with that. Other examples are Hoover and Frigidaire.

Scott McCallister · Post by **Scott McCallister** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:17 pm

SteveK wrote:
Walden wrote:
fearfaoin wrote:"Saran-wrap" is actually a
trademarked name, which we have adopted into generality, like "Xerox"
(photocopier) or "Kleenex" (tissue for blowing one's nose upon)
And Band-Aid, Ping-Pong, and Dumpster.
Not to mention Victrola, a term which is in constant use.

I blame all these glue incidents on these modern high-tech glues. Back in the old days when we put glue on our toilet seats, it wasn't so bad.

I'm pretty sure Steve was just having us on. Most kids today don't even know what a "record" is much less a hand cranked accoustic player for them.

Edited: D'OH! He Beat me to it!

herbivore12 · Post by **herbivore12** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:20 pm

I was curious, so poked around on the internet. I have no idea in what context you've heard/seen "victrola" used as slang, but I found this:

Students used metaphors to create shared meanings with their classmates, even explaining new words to reduce possible misunderstandings. "Looking back at the chat, my comments seem like you may have created a monster. The proverbial vaccination with the victrola needle. Student 10, are you familiar with the term Victrola? It is a brand of record player. Being vaccinated with a Victrola needle means a person talks a lot" (S6, 2-20-97).

regarding the use of "victrola" in computer chat. (The quote's from this website: http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_11/murphy/ )

Dunno if that makes sense in the context you heard it in, though. . .

[Edit: it looks like it came from another post, as per above. All that work for nothin'!]

fearfaoin · Post by **fearfaoin** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:25 pm

SteveK wrote:
fearfaoin wrote:"Saran-wrap" is actually a
trademarked name, which we have adopted into generality, like "Xerox"
(photocopier) or "Kleenex" (tissue for blowing one's nose upon)
Not to mention Victrola, a term which is in constant use.

Ah. That thread and this one are so removed by time (at least, it
seems so in Internet time...) that I didn't get the reference.

(I see that the joke part is "in constant use", which Victrola is not.)

SteveK · Post by **SteveK** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:27 pm

Victrola

TelegramSam · Post by **TelegramSam** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:30 pm

I've never heard the word used as a slang term, but I don't hang around middle and high schoolers much anymore...

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:35 pm

Indeed.

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php ... sc&start=0

Here it was whence I heard it first...

Funny how some really crappy little phrases stick in your head....with no explanation known

Slan,
D.

I.D.10-t · Post by **I.D.10-t** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:43 pm

dubhlinn wrote:Indeed.

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php ... sc&start=0

Here it was whence I heard it first...

Funny how some really crappy little phrases stick in your head....with no explanation known

Slan,
D.

[rant]
That section of the thread reminded me how much I hate the commercialization of speech. It seems that it is getting harder to say a sentence without risking a trademark defamation lawsuit. It McSucks.
[/rant]

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:00 pm

It is not about a commandering of popular speech, it's about a living , vibrant language.A language that exists above and beyond the needs of those who speak that language.

Bit like the music really.

One of youse help me..Victrola???

Slan,
D.

jsluder · Post by **jsluder** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:22 pm

dubhlinn wrote: One of youse help me..Victrola???

Slan,
D.

Didn't SteveK's reply answer your question?

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