Doorley

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:54 pm

Does anyone know which Olwell model Tom Doorley plays? I'm assuming it's the large hole (Pratten)? I'm watching the Danu DVD right now and it's blowing my mind.

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:06 pm

It sure sounds like one.
Isn't he a classy player?

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:11 pm

DUH!!!
I just looked and the middle section is one piece.
So I guess it's the Pratten

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:14 pm

Cathy Wilde wrote:It sure sounds like one.
Isn't he a classy player?

Yes, absolutely fabulous.
His grip is different than anything I've seen: piper's grip on top and fingertips on the bottom hand.
Muireann is great too..

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:45 pm

he is such great player,
we have seen them in concert, and have the DVD, but he holds the flute so different, and his embouchure is different...................so i just listen and try to get there "my way" (swinging the flute like a bat )
e.

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:48 pm

I've tried his flute.

It's kinda nice.

--James

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:51 pm

Is it legal to say "weenie!" on this board?

You lucky dog. Although then again, I would been so self-conscious I might have yarked in it or something.

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:56 pm

eilam wrote:he is such great player,
we have seen them in concert, and have the DVD, but he holds the flute so different, and his embouchure is different...................so i just listen and try to get there "my way" (swinging the flute like a bat )
e.

At least you don't hit anything with it. I just whacked some poor girl in the chin a couple of weeks ago.

(Of course, she had an Olwell too, so maybe the Murray was just jealous)

That's funny; I literally just bookmarked that DVD yesterday for near-future-ordering purposes. Glad to hear it's a good one!

norseman · Post by **norseman** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:00 pm

Here's a couple of pics of him showing his flute hold that I found from Google:

Bob

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:27 pm

Oh, NO!!!!!!!!!
It's the patented Turlach Boylan sleeper hold (at least on the left hand)!!!!

After 30+ years of holding the flute one way, I am now (probably terribly, horribly wrongly -- John, where are you??? STOP ME!!!!!) experimenting with this very grip after watching Turlach play for a few days and talking to him about it (of course, he has hands the size of South Dakota, so ....).

If I'm not careful it seriously sores up my forearm -- and it is SO hard to stay relaxed, especially when it feels like the flute is going to roll right off my thumbs -- but I have to say it's doing really cool things for my left-hand rolls and finger lightness, and I'm liking having the flute more mobile on my lip, too.

But I'm really not sure if I can sustain it over the years, particularly with the big McGee flute. I played a few hours that way in a rollicking session Saturday night, and my hand felt like some sort of twisted claw at the end of it.

And Bb? .... UGH.

Anyway, that's interesting. I was wondering if more people held the flutes that way than I've paid attention to ....

cat.

David Levine · Post by **David Levine** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:31 pm

The fact that a flute has a single center section (rather than two sections) does not it a Pratten make. I have an Olwell Eb with a single center section and Patrick does make Nicholson models with single center section. One reason is so that the G# hole -- and key placement -- won't interfere with the socket and tenon.

Wormdiet · Post by **Wormdiet** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:58 pm

David Levine wrote:The fact that a flute has a single center section (rather than two sections) does not it a Pratten make. I have an Olwell Eb with a single center section and Patrick does make Nicholson models with single center section. One reason is so that the G# hole -- and key placement -- won't interfere with the socket and tenon.

Conversely, will Patrick make a Pratten with a split body? potential flute purchasers want to know!

David Levine · Post by **David Levine** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:23 pm

Conversely, will Patrick make a Pratten with a split body? potential flute purchasers want to know!

I don't know. Keyless, he probably would. keyed... maybe... in twelve years, perhaps?

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:28 pm

Wormdiet wrote: Conversely, will Patrick make a Pratten with a split body? potential flute purchasers want to know!

There was a keyless one on ebay like that a while back.

David Levine · Post by **David Levine** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:42 pm

That was a keyless cocus with medium holes.

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