Regulators: Whats the Census?

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snoogie wrote:But be careful...once you hear someone playing a great set of pipes, making good use of the regulators, regulators in tune, in time, etc. you'll know that regs are something you MUST have someday! :D

Meanwhile, enjoy the journey.

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KDMARTINKY wrote:DJM:
No, Keith, I'm not sure you're getting this. If a player has regs, it can't possibly be a half-set, as a half-set is, by definition, a set without any regs.
I do understand that 1/2's don't have regs, but I just happen to know of a 1/2 set that has regs. If I can find the site again and I am sure I can...I'll send you a pic or post it on here..maybe its a modified set.

Either way thanks for all the information.
A half set has no regulators... which is why it is called a 1/2 set.
I think KDMARTINKY is referring to that maker, whose name I've forgotten, who makes half sets with drones that have keys on them like regulators.

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ausdag wrote:
Joseph E. Smith wrote:
KDMARTINKY wrote:DJM: I do understand that 1/2's don't have regs, but I just happen to know of a 1/2 set that has regs. If I can find the site again and I am sure I can...I'll send you a pic or post it on here..maybe its a modified set.

Either way thanks for all the information.
A half set has no regulators... which is why it is called a 1/2 set.
I think KDMARTINKY is referring to that maker, whose name I've forgotten, who makes half sets with drones that have keys on them like regulators.

CHeers,

DavidG
Ah, yes, I recall those pipes. I'm not certain if I would consider them a half set or not... at least not in the traditional sense I guess.
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Regulators: Whats the Census?

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Hi,

Wouldn't these be Jim Dailys's pipes?
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uillmann wrote:"don't need other accompaniment"

It isn't about "needs"

"won't fit in"

They fit just fine if they are in tune and the rhythm is solid.

"probably won't hear regulators in a group or session"

If you aren't listening, you won't hear them.
I won't disagree with you on all of the above, but the fact of the matter is that pipers in sessions or groups play their regulators less than solo pipers.
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SRHill wrote:Hi,

Wouldn't these be Jim Dailys's pipes?
Yes :thumbsup: http://www.uilleann-pipes.com/r_fullset.shtml

he calls them 'full set rationalised' I suppose normal sets are irrational.

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ausdag wrote:
he calls them 'full set rationalised' I suppose normal sets are irrational.

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ausdag wrote:
Joseph E. Smith wrote:
KDMARTINKY wrote:DJM: I do understand that 1/2's don't have regs, but I just happen to know of a 1/2 set that has regs. If I can find the site again and I am sure I can...I'll send you a pic or post it on here..maybe its a modified set.

Either way thanks for all the information.
A half set has no regulators... which is why it is called a 1/2 set.
I think KDMARTINKY is referring to that maker, whose name I've forgotten, who makes half sets with drones that have keys on them like regulators.

CHeers,

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Aha! I see what you mean (Jim Daly pipes). I would not call these regulators. This is a set of drones with the option to change the drone notes, as can be done on some other types of small pipes. Its an interesting idea for sure, but I wouldn't confuse these drones with regs.

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Hi Joseph

You should see what his personal set looks like now. 2 drones (bass and baritone) and one regulator. They sound very nice too. I will ask Uilliam to get a picture of them and post it when I see him tonight (that is assuming Jim has not changed the setup in the mean time, he changes his setup constantly).

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If a set with 2 regulators is called a 3/4 set, what do we call a set with only one regulator - 5/8 set? Union pipes?

I recall reading that someone (D. Daye?) calls a practice set with 2 drones a 3/8 set.
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They say it's better to regu-late than never at all.

sorry sorry, couldn't resist.

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Man....this is all getting too confusing....its as bad as looking at my Craftman tools 5/8", 1/2", 3/4", 1/4"....... :lol:
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I seem to recall somone saying that the term "regulator" came from "regulating" the tempo, providing a bit more meter and lift (for dancers?).
Anyone certain of the origins of the term? I will say that for myself, my chanter work never was very interesting, and it has gotten a lot sloppier since I became a dad and stopped spending my evenings at the pub. For me, the regulators are a blessing and a crutch. Don't let this happen to you! (not the dad part, the sloppy part)
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That question keeps coming up. I don't know that anyone ever established the origin of the term "regulators" on UPs. The term is also used on pipe organs (just to muddy the waters even further). The best anyone could do was see how far back they could go to find the term in use, but not the origins. Early union (uilleann) pipes started out with one regulator to be played in "union" with the chanter. Do a Search to see how this one keeps getting regurgitated.

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