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Blackwood wrote:what about believing that God is speaking to you and answers your prayers (and even wanted you to be president) yet he isn't there even though you really really believe it (ie faith)?
Thats called Bush Rash...cureable with a perscription creme... :lol:
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How do you prove that a policy has that effect? That it's the policy causing Z?
It depends. My mental model was the over-exploitation of the Ogalalla aquifer. We know how the water got there and how long it took. We know roughly the amount of water there is and we know how much we use a year, as well as how much that amount is increasing. We can easily do the math and work out what happens when you consume a finite resource at such a rate.

None of these are uncertain values, within the accuracy tolerances.

I think that schools across the mid west and west OUGHT to be saying that based on current consumption, a major drought should be anticipated and planned for.

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It's almost that clear with regard to global warming. We know that Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere traps solar radiation and changes our climate. We've watched this happen. We also know that the earth is warming--we can also observe that.

What's debated--almost entirely by non-scientists with a financial interest at stake--is the degree to which the earth warms and cools on it's own. However, any natural warming is unrelated to that caused by an increase in carbon. Even if the earth is warming naturally, it's still poor policy to add to that effect with human-caused pollution.
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fiddleronvermouth wrote:No matter what teachers are required to teach, they will never stop having their own opinions and being human. I think that's a good thing, personally. Without exception, every single one of my favorite teachers (that is, the ones I *respected* and really *learned* from) had strong personal convictions, let their convictions influence their teaching style, and were not afraid of tangetial discussions that strayed from state-mandated course material.

The teachers who just read aloud from the textbook bored me to the extent I paid no attention whatsoever to anything they said.
Same here.

I guess that's why I said "fighting". Also persecuted is probably too strong of a word.
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s1m0n wrote:"Delusional" isn't the word you're looking for. It's a loaded term and has a specific meaning.

If you see God and god isn't there, that's delusional. If you believe that God exists despite not having seen him, that's faith. One's a kind of crazy and the other can be very very sane.

These aren't the same thing at all.

The word you're looking for is "irrational".
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Blackwood wrote:How would you feel if you lived in a society where everybody believes in an invisble pink unicorn who created all of mankind? you can't dissprove it, and yet the believers want to teach your children that the pink unicorn is responsible for creation.
You mean it's not real????
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Blackwood's god :D
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Tyler Morris wrote:Blackwood's god :D
He is?! :boggle: (I thought Tom Cruise was god...)
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jsluder wrote:
Tyler Morris wrote:Blackwood's god :D
He is?! :boggle: (I thought Tom Cruise was god...)
Possessivvee tennse, use the possessivve tennnsssseeeee.AAHHHGGGggGG! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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You mean it's not real????
hey hey i said invisible.....this is obviously a fraud :lol:
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Blackwood's god
My Will be Done....but good news i'm all loving, you have free will...as long as you do as i say or i will torture you...forever...deal?

And Tom Cruise is not God and I can prove it: Tom Cruise has more money than me (God).. ergo he is not God
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hey hey i said invisible.....this is obviously a fraud :lol:
Is not!!!
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good one Jack :lol:
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Tyler Morris wrote:
jsluder wrote:
Tyler Morris wrote:Blackwood's god :D
He is?! :boggle: (I thought Tom Cruise was god...)
Possessivvee tennse, use the possessivve tennnsssseeeee.AAHHHGGGggGG! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Possessive case. But never mind.

This thread in the last five pages has demonstrated how you can have the whole discussion over, if you just dumb it down sufficiently to fit it into slogans.
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Possibly, or I just didn't read all 20 pages.
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