Oh, I was so much older then...

bradhurley · Post by **bradhurley** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:43 pm

The new issue of Granta has a transcript of Studs Terkel interviewing Bob Dylan in 1963.

This quote from Dylan really hit me:

"Maybe it's just the time, now is the time maybe you have to belong to yourself. I think maybe in 1930, from talking with Woody and Pete Seeger and some other people I know, it seems like everything back then was good and bad and black and white and whatever, you only had one or two. When you stand on one side and you know people are either for you or against you, with you or behind you or whatever you have. Nowadays it's just, I don't know how it got that way but it doesn't seem so simple. There are more than two sides, it's not black and white anymore."

Post by **Nanohedron** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:53 pm

Yeah, sometimes it's écru.

bradhurley · Post by **bradhurley** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:59 pm

It's just that reading that passage made me feel like we've gone back to 1930...I wonder if Dylan feels we're going backwards in time too, and if he thinks a Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall...again.

Post by **Nanohedron** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:01 pm

bradhurley wrote:It's just that reading that passage made me feel like we've gone back to 1930...I wonder if Dylan would feel that way today himself, and if he thinks a Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall...again.

I see your point. I wonder the same thing, myself.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:09 pm

The times they are a- changin', no doubt about that.

Slan,
D.

peteinmn · Post by **peteinmn** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:18 pm

Nanohedron wrote:Yeah, sometimes it's écru.

I thought it was "elephants breath."

As far as the times changin, I would personally rather live today rather than in the 30's. More complicated? Certainly. But also much so many more possibilities.

djm · Post by **djm** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:05 pm

I suspect this has more to do with the perspective of the indivduals involved. A libertarian in the 1930s might have been much more aware of the complexities of an open society than a hard-luck bum on the soup line. (Not there's anything better or worse of either one, just that they might have different perspectives.)

djm

cowtime · Post by **cowtime** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:58 pm

bradhurley wrote:It's just that reading that passage made me feel like we've gone back to 1930...I wonder if Dylan feels we're going backwards in time too, and if he thinks a Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall...again.

That's my very favorite Dylan tune- and this was once my signature from said tune-

"Heard one hundred drummers who's hands were a-blazin' "

This tune is just as appropriate for the present as it was back then.........

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:11 pm

I'm younger than that now.

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:42 pm

dubhlinn wrote:The times they are a- changin', no doubt about that.

Slan,
D.

I think they always were, Dub.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:51 am

Wombat wrote:
dubhlinn wrote:The times they are a- changin', no doubt about that.

Slan,
D.
I think they always were, Dub.

You philosophers :roll:

Slan,
D.

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:04 am

dubhlinn wrote:
Wombat wrote:
dubhlinn wrote:The times they are a- changin', no doubt about that.

Slan,
D.
I think they always were, Dub.
You philosophers :roll:

Slan,
D.

...and its more fun than death and taxes

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:13 am

Speaking of the Master.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 747739.stm

How does that feel

Slan,
D.

fiddleronvermouth · Post by **fiddleronvermouth** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:44 am

dubhlinn wrote:Speaking of the Master.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 747739.stm

How does that feel

Slan,
D.

Hm - it does say something about the attention span of your average rock and film star!

#1 highest ranking song: "like a rolling stone" (3 1/2 minutes)
#5 highest ranking movie: "clockwork orange" (what, 2 hours? 2 1/2?)
#10 highest ranking tv show "the prisoner" (half an hour a week)
#19 highest ranking book "on the road" (I gave up after a few hours myself)

These changed the world!!??!!??

What about Darwin's Origin of the Species? Marx's Communist Manifesto? Or, what about Star Wars? Implanting the Taoist philosophy of Yoda in the minds of a whole generation! Star TREK? Breaking down barriers of racism in Hollywood by giving a speaking part to a black woman!

That's the last time I pay any attention to a movie and rock star poll.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:53 am

fiddleronvermouth wrote: Hm - it does say something about the attention span of your average rock and film star!

#1 highest ranking song: "like a rolling stone" (3 1/2 minutes)
#5 highest ranking movie: "clockwork orange" (what, 2 hours? 2 1/2?)
#10 highest ranking tv show "the prisoner" (half an hour a week)
#19 highest ranking book "on the road" (I gave up after a few hours myself)

These changed the world!!??!!??

What about Darwin's Origin of the Species? Marx's Communist Manifesto? Or, what about Star Wars? Implanting the Taoist philosophy of Yoda in the minds of a whole generation! Star TREK? Breaking down barriers of racism in Hollywood by giving a speaking part to a black woman!

That's the last time I pay any attention to a movie and rock star poll.

They are smarter than you might think, Dylans epic song is over six minutes long

Slan,
D.