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emmline wrote:In consideration of the various uprisings and flames which have sullied the spirit of the pipes forum this year, I'd like to propose a law which would head off bag-learning flaws.
As long as it's not bag-burning!
Don't burn your bag, recycle! :D
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Making burning flag laws illegal wouldn't work. What if the some extremists daubed the Anti-Flag burning laws on a flag. Wouldn't this just give more meaning to the cause of flag burners and thus generate a whole new band of extremists? I think you're just playing into their hands Dale. :roll: Just pass a law forcing all flag producers to use only flame retardant materials and voila your flag is safe :)
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perrins57 wrote:Just pass a law forcing all flag producers to use only flame retardant materials and voila your flag is safe :)
Pardon the pun but brominated flame retardants are one of the hottest topics in environmental toxics. They are used liberally in consumer products, save lives, and are emerging as a very worrysome contaminate. I grabbed this off the web. Lots of uncertainty but very disturbing. Five years ago no one was looking at thia group of chemicals. Late 1990s studies in Sweeden and San Francisco turned up startingly high levels of BFRs in breast milk.

Executive Summary
In the first nationwide tests for brominated fire retardants in house dust, the Environmental Working Group (EWG) found unexpectedly high levels of these neurotoxic chemicals in every home sampled. The average level of brominated fire retardants measured in dust from nine homes was more than 4,600 parts per billion (ppb). A tenth sample, collected in a home where products with fire retardants were recently removed, contained more than 41,000 ppb of brominated fire retardants — twice as high as the maximum level previously reported by any dust study worldwide.

Like PCBs, their long-banned chemical relatives, the brominated fire retardants known as PBDEs (polybrominated diphenyl ethers) are persistent in the environment and bioaccumulative, building up in people's bodies over a lifetime. In minute doses they and other brominated fire retardants impair attention, learning, memory and behavior in laboratory animals.

EWG's test results indicate that consumer products, not industrial releases, are the most likely sources of the rapid buildup of PBDEs in people, animals and the environment, which has been documented by tests from Europe to the Arctic. Scientists now recognize that indoor environmental contamination, including contaminants accumulating in household dust, pose a substantial health risk to the population. Our findings raise concerns that children may ingest significant amounts of toxic fire retardants via dust, and indicate that the impending federal phase-out of two PBDEs doesn't go far enough to protect Americans.

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We had a group from down South come up to burn our flag when the same-sex debate was raging. A Mountie had to help them do it, just to make sure they did it safely. :)
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dwinterfield wrote:
perrins57 wrote:Just pass a law forcing all flag producers to use only flame retardant materials and voila your flag is safe :)
Pardon the pun but brominated flame retardants are one of the hottest topics in environmental toxics. They are used liberally in consumer products, save lives, and are emerging as a very worrysome contaminate. I grabbed this off the web. Lots of uncertainty but very disturbing. Five years ago no one was looking at thia group of chemicals. Late 1990s studies in Sweeden and San Francisco turned up startingly high levels of BFRs in breast milk.
Either way, it becomes a Left/Right issue. :lol:
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dwinterfield wrote: Pardon the pun but brominated flame retardants are one of the hottest topics in environmental toxics. They are used liberally in consumer products, save lives, and are emerging as a very worrysome contaminate. I grabbed this off the web. Lots of uncertainty but very disturbing. Five years ago no one was looking at thia group of chemicals. Late 1990s studies in Sweeden and San Francisco turned up startingly high levels of BFRs in breast milk.
Flame retardant breast milk, could we use this to extinguish burning flags?
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If burning flag burning laws is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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You can burn any flag, but it is impossible to burn what it stands for. A law preventing flag burning will cost money, time and effort that could best be allocated toward something really useful like shelter and food for the homeless... among a myriad of other more pressing issues facing our nations today.

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We are all still being sarcastic . . . . right?
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perrins57 wrote:We are all still being sarcastic . . . . right?

Umm, maybe. It may depend upon which posts you think are sarcastic.

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perrins57 wrote:
dwinterfield wrote: Pardon the pun but brominated flame retardants are one of the hottest topics in environmental toxics. They are used liberally in consumer products, save lives, and are emerging as a very worrysome contaminate. I grabbed this off the web. Lots of uncertainty but very disturbing. Five years ago no one was looking at thia group of chemicals. Late 1990s studies in Sweeden and San Francisco turned up startingly high levels of BFRs in breast milk.
Flame retardant breast milk, could we use this to extinguish burning flags?
I read your comment and began think of possibly funny but very tasteless responses/continuations. Upon further review the potential for tasteless(and possibly offensive) far outweighs the possibility of funny. Better not to go there.
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dwinterfield wrote:
perrins57 wrote:
dwinterfield wrote: Pardon the pun but brominated flame retardants are one of the hottest topics in environmental toxics. They are used liberally in consumer products, save lives, and are emerging as a very worrysome contaminate. I grabbed this off the web. Lots of uncertainty but very disturbing. Five years ago no one was looking at thia group of chemicals. Late 1990s studies in Sweeden and San Francisco turned up startingly high levels of BFRs in breast milk.
Flame retardant breast milk, could we use this to extinguish burning flags?
I read your comment and began think of possibly funny but very tasteless responses/continuations. Upon further review the potential for tasteless(and possibly offensive) far outweighs the possibility of funny. Better not to go there.
Yes I rather naively initiated an idea, without thinking about where it could be taken. Your restraint is admirable.
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dwinterfield wrote:
perrins57 wrote:Flame retardant breast milk, could we use this to extinguish burning flags?
I read your comment and began think of possibly funny but very tasteless responses/continuations.
What's so tasteless about a race of flame-proof superbabies?
Then we wouldn't need to make Halloween costumes flame-retardant...
oh, I see now.
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fearfaoin wrote:[ flame-proof superbabies?
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That would make napalm and flame throwers obsolete! :lol: :lol:
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